Golf Talk Live - Lorie Kane Transcript Segment 2
THE GREAT WALTER HAGEN ONCE SAID AFTER FINISHING SECOND IN THE U.S. OPEN, AFTER BEING ASKED HOW HE DID, HE SAID, 'I LOST.' HE DIDN'T SAY, 'I FINISHED SECOND.' HE SAID, 'I LOST.'
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THAT THE PAIN OF NOT WINNING IS A MORE INTENSE EMOTION THAN THE THRILL THAT WINNING PROVIDES. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT IN YOUR CASE?
WELL . (SIGH) I'M NOT SURE. YOU KNOW, I . I'VE BEEN ASKED A LOT IN THE LAST LITTLE WHILE ABOUT NOT FINISHING THE JOB OR NOT GETTING THE JOB DONE. AND,
UM, BUT I JUST . I - YOU KNOW, I JUST TRY TO PUT MYSELF, EVERY WEEK, GIVE MYSELF OPPORTUNITIES TO BE, UH, AT THE TOP OF THE LEADERBOARD AT THE END OF SUNDAY.
AND, YOU KNOW, I HAVE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, AGONIZING THOUGHTS OF 'WELL CAN I WIN?'. UH, 'AM I ABLE TO WIN?'
UM, I TOOK TWO WEEKS OFF AT EASTER TIME AND DECIDED THAT, UH, MY GOAL HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO LOWER MY STROKE AVERAGE.
AND, I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF THE REPORTERS ABOUT THAT. UH, BUT DURING THAT TWO WEEK BREAK, I HAD A LITTLE MEETING WITH MYSELF AND DECIDED THAT I HAD TO START TALKING THE TALK.
I NEEDED TO BE ABLE TO SAY MYSELF, 'YOU CAN WIN.' UH, NOT THAT MY GOAL HASN'T CHANGED, BUT IT'S ANOTHER PART OF THE GOAL. AND I THINK BY THINKING I CAN WIN, I'M MAKING MYSELF STRONGER AND BUILDING MY CONFIDENCE. AND,
UH, IT OBVIOUSLY WORKED BECAUSE WE WENT TO ATLANTA AND I PLAYED SOME . SOME OF THE BEST GOLF I'VE EVER PLAYED AND AGAIN CAME UP SHORT. BUT UH,
I'M PATIENT AND . OR I'M GOING TO HAVE TO BE PATIENT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE THIS GAME UH . YOU KNOW, TOO . TOO HARSH ON YOURSELF. UH, YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE THROUGH IT.
TELL ME BRIEFLY ABOUT THE POLITICS THAT KEPT YOU OFF THE WORLD AMATEUR TEAM EARLY IN THIS DECADE THAT LEAD YOU ULTIMATELY TO MAKE A DECISION THAT MAYBE THIS IS THE TIME TO TURN PROFESSIONAL.
WELL THAT WAS A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR, NOT ONLY MYSELF, BUT MY FAMILY. UM, I HAD PLAYED 4 YEARS INTERNATIONALLY FOR TEAM CANADA. AND IN THE 4TH YEAR, UH, WHICH WAS 1992,
UH THE CANADIAN . CANADA WAS HOSTING THE WORLD TOUR - WORLD AMATEUR IN VANCOUVER. UH, I FELT THAT I HAD FOLLOWED ALL THE CRITERIA THAT THE C.L.G., WHICH IS THE AMATEUR BODY IN CANADA, HAD SET DOWN TO SELECT THE TEAM.
UH, WHEN WE PLAYED OUR CANADIAN CHAMPIONSHIP IT HAPPENED TO BE IN MONCTON, NEW BRUNSWICK, WHICH WAS VERY CLOSE TO . TO HOME. AND I HAD A LOT OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS THERE TO COME OVER TO ROOT ME ON AND WATCH THE TOURNAMENT AND . AND .
FIND OUT AT THE END WHETHER OR NOT WE WOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED TO THE TEAM. UM, UNFORTUNATELY I WASN'T. AND, I STILL TO THIS DAY DON'T KNOW WHY. UM,
TO MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT, IT . IT WAS A VERY . LEARNING EXPERIENCE FOR ME. UM, I - MY SISTER REPRESENTED ME, UH, AND HAD I NOT HAD A LAWYER IN THE FAMILY, THINGS PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN DONE.
WE . WE ASKED THE QUESTION TO THE ASSOCIATION WHY I WASN'T SELECTED FOLLOWING THEIR CRITERIA THAT THEY HAD SET DOWN AND THEY COULD NOT GIVE ME AN ANSWER.
UH, SO MY SISTER, MARILYN, TOOK IT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND ENDED UP GOING TO COURT. AND IT WAS JUST A TERRIBLE MESS. UM, BUT THE END RESULT WAS THAT I WAS NAMED TO THE TEAM. I DID PLAY IN THE WORLD AMATEUR. AND AFTER IT WAS OVER,
I FELT LIKE GOLF WAS DONE FOR ME. UM, I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT MAYBE I SHOULDN'T PLAY AMATEUR GOLF ANYMORE, THAT I MIGHT NOT BE WELCOMED. AND I REALLY THOUGHT THAT MAYBE GOLF WASN'T WHERE I WANTED TO BE ANYMORE BECAUSE IT WASN'T A FRIENDLY THING.
UM, BUT TOOK A COUPLE MONTHS AND . AND THEN DECIDED ON A SNOWY DAY IN APRIL THAT I BETTER CALL THE CANADIAN PGA BECAUSE I REALLY WANTED TO PLAY IN THE DU MAURIER SERIES.
AND I NEEDED TO GET MY CARD AS A CANADIAN PLAYER, UH, CANADIAN TOUR CARD. SO I WENT TO TORONTO IN UH EARLY MAY AND THE FROST WAS STILL ON THE GROUND AND . AND WE TEED IT UP AND I THINK I, WHAT, MADE MY CARD BY A SHOT.
SO, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
AS PAINFUL AS THAT EXPERIENCE WAS, IN A FUNNY WAY, IN A GOOD WAY, IT REALLY TURNED THINGS AROUND BECAUSE THAT WAS THE IMPETUS THAT GAVE YOU THE SHOVE TO TURN PROFESSIONAL WHICH I SUPPOSE YOU DON'T REGRET ONE MINUTE OF THAT DECISION.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. UM, I THINK THE EXPERIENCE TAUGHT ME A LOT ABOUT MYSELF. UH, IT DEFINITELY TAUGHT ME THAT MY FAMILY WAS BEHIND ME ONE HUNDRED PERCENT AND WHATEVER IT WAS THAT I CHOSE TO DO. UH ...
BUT, AS FAR AS MY GOLF GAME WAS CONCERNED, I WAS READY. I MEAN, I . PLAYING IN THE WORLD AMATEUR UNDER THE CONDITIONS THAT I PLAYED IN, I HAD DREAMT FOR 3 MONTHS THAT I WAS GONNA MISS THE BALL ON THE FIRST TEE.
I HAD ACTUALLY CRIED ALL NIGHT, THE NIGHT BEFORE I WAS TO PLAY, AND MY SISTER, MARILYN, WHO HAPPENED TO BE IN VAN - IN VANCOUVER ALONG WITH MY MOM, I SAID, 'I DON'T THINK I CAN PLAY.'
AND, BOTH OF THEM SAID, 'WELL, THERE'S GOING TO A KANE TEEING OFF TOMORROW.' AND MARILYN SAID, 'AND IT HAS TO BE ME.'
AND SO, YOU KNOW, I LIVED THROUGH THAT EXPERIENCE AND . AND I WILL AGREE WITH YOU, PETER ,THAT UH, IT'S MADE ME A STRONGER PERSON AND I THINK, AGAIN, HELPED ME PREPARE FOR WHAT IT IS OUT HERE THAT WE DO WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT.
DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT TURNED OUT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WORKED OUT FOR THE GOOD, YOU'RE STILL ANGRY AND NOT READY TO FORGIVE COMPLETELY, AREN'T YOU?
WELL, THERE'S . THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT UH I DON'T UNDERSTAND. AND UM, IT . IT DOES . IT DOESN'T SIT WELL WITH ME. UH, BUT WE HAVE A PACK IN OUR FAMILY THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT MUCH. UH, MY DAD, IT REALLY BOTHERS HIM.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE LIKED THEM TO HAVE SAID, 'YOU KNOW, YOU DID SUCH AND SUCH AND THEREFORE YOU CAN'T PLAY.' AND I WOULD HAVE SAID, 'FINE.'
UH, BUT THEY DIDN'T. AND I ALWAYS WONDER . YOU KNOW, I HAVE DIFFICULTY WITH PEOPLE WHO . WHO DON'T LIKE ME. AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY. AND . AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER, IT'S . IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET PAST IT.
LET'S TURN TO SOMEBODY WHO DOES LIKE YOU. WE HAVE JOHN IN NEWFOUNDLAND. HELLO, JOHN.
JOHN FROM NEWFOUNDLAND
GOOD EVENING PETER. HI LORIE.
JOHN FROM NEWFOUNDLAND
I WANT TO SAY I'M A MEMBER OF BALLY HALLY AT SAINT JOHNS NEWFOUNDLAND.
JOHN FROM NEWFOUNDLAND
AND, THE ONLY BUNCH OF ISLANDERS CHEERING FOR YOU FROM P.E.I. SO WE WATCH EVERY WEEK THE LEADERBOARD. UM, I WANT TO TALK - GET YOU TO TALK A BIT ABOUT THE PROSPECTS FOR MORE PEOPLE FROM CANADA MAKING IT ON . ON THE TOUR .
ON THE . THE TOURS IN THE UNITED STATES, THE -- WHAT I THINK ARE THE IMPROVING PROSPECTS.
UH, WE WANT SOME COMPETITION FOR THOSE GUYS DOWN THERE, MORE THAN JUST YOU AND THIS -- I KNOW THERE'S 4 OR 5 MORE NOW.
BUT, HAVE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK ACROSS CANADA OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS? AND I THINK THERE'S MORE COMING. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
WELL ABSOLUTELY JOHN. I THINK, UM . WELL THE R.C.G.A. AND . AND YES, THE C.L.G.A., ARE TRYING TO DEVELOP BETTER JUNIOR PROGRAMS AND WORK ON THAT ASPECT. I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE IT NEEDS TO GO. I MEAN, I THINK YOU NEED GOOD GRASSROOTS PROGRAMS TO .
YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP YOUNG PLAYERS. UM, AGAIN, THE OPPORTUNITY'S THERE FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO TO A UNIVERSITY, WHICH I DIDN'T DO IN THE STATES. UM, BUT THERE'S LOTS . LOTS AND LOTS OF GOLF OUT THERE.
AND I THINK FROM ONE . OF ONE COAST TO THE OTHER IN CANADA, UH, IT'S GETTING BETTER. AND I KNOW IN OUR REGION, JOHN, ATLANTIC CANADA, UH THERE'S GOLF COURSES POPPING UP EVERY DAY. SO,
THERE'S NOT A LACK OF PLACES TO PLAY.
WE'LL TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK. AND WE WILL COME BACK AND TAKE MORE OF YOUR CALLS AND KICK AROUND GOLF RIGHT AFTER THIS WITH LORIE KANE.
Twice winner Kizzire on missing U.S. Open: 'Fuel to my fire'
CROMWELL, Conn. – Based on recent form, there likely wasn’t a more decorated player watching last week’s U.S. Open from home than Patton Kizzire.
Kizzire is in the midst of a breakthrough season that has already included two wins: a maiden victory at the OHL Classic at Mayakoba in November, and a marathon playoff triumph over James Hahn at the Sony Open in January. While those titles got him into the Masters and the PGA Championship, they didn’t mean an exemption to Shinnecock Hills.
Kizzire got as high as 51st in the world rankings after his win in Honolulu, but his game started to turn shortly thereafter. A T-12 finish at the WGC-Mexico Championship is his lone top-25 finish in 12 starts since his Sony victory, and he missed four straight cuts from the Masters to The Players Championship.
The U.S. Open grants exemptions to the top 60 in the world at two different cutoff points close to the tournament. But in the midst of a cold streak, Kizzire was 63rd and 65th at each of those deadlines. He attempted to earn a spot at sectional qualifying in Columbus, only to find that his score of 5 under was one shot too many.
“I guess just adding a little fuel to my fire, adding insult to injury,” Kizzire said. “Just to have narrowly missed several different ways of qualification was disappointing. But I just tried to spin it as a positive. I got two weeks off, and I did watch those guys struggle a little bit. I wasn’t struggling at home, we’ll just say that.”
Kizzire hopes to put the disappointment behind him this week at the Travelers Championship, where he finished T-53 a year ago. And while his pair of trophies didn’t get him a tee time last week – or guarantee him a berth in The Open next month – they put him in prime position to make the season-ending Tour Championship, which would mean spots in the first three majors of 2019.
The combination of two recent wins and a ranking outside the top 60 isn’t one that comes up often on Tour, but Kizzire maintains a balanced perspective as he looks to get back to playing the kind of golf that will ensure he doesn’t miss any more majors in the near future.
“If I would have played better in between the U.S. Open and my last win, I would have gotten in. So my play was the reason I wasn’t in,” Kizzire said. “You certainly could look at it and say, ‘This guy’s got two wins, he should be in.’ But I’m not making too much of it.”
Masters, Players and U.S. Open champs grouped at Travelers
CROMWELL, Conn. – Fresh off a second straight U.S. Open victory, Brooks Koepka is getting right back to work at the Travelers Championship.
Koepka has stood by his commitment to tee it up at TPC River Highlands, becoming the first U.S. Open champ to play the following week on the PGA Tour since Justin Rose played the Travelers after his 2013 win at Merion. Koepka will play the first two rounds alongside Masters champ Patrick Reed and Webb Simpson, who captured The Players Championship last month.
Here’s a look at some of the other marquee, early-round groupings for a star-studded field outside Hartford (all times ET):
7:50 a.m. Thursday, 12:50 p.m. Friday: Jason Day, Xander Schauffele, Daniel Berger
Day is making his second straight Travelers appearance, having missed the cut both last year in Cromwell and last week at Shinnecock Hills. He’ll be joined by reigning Rookie of the Year Schauffele and Berger, who took home ROY honors in 2015 and last year was on the losing end of Jordan Spieth’s playoff dramatics at this event.
8 a.m. Thursday, 1 p.m. Friday: Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reed, Webb Simpson
Koepka is making his third tournament appearance overall, but his first since a T-9 finish in 2016, before he had either of his two U.S. Open trophies. Reed has become a regular at this event and enters off a fourth-place showing on Long Island, while Simpson cruised to victory last month at TPC Sawgrass and tied for 10th last week.
12:50 p.m. Thursday, 7:50 a.m. Friday: Jordan Spieth, Marc Leishman, Russell Knox
This was the tournament that turned things around last year for Spieth, who took home the title in his debut thanks to one of the most dramatic shots of the year in a playoff against Berger. He’ll start his title defense alongside a pair of past champs, as Leishman won here for his first Tour title back in 2012 and Knox was a winner two years ago when the tournament was played in August.
1 p.m. Thursday, 8 a.m. Friday: Bubba Watson, Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas
This group should get plenty of attention in the early rounds, with Thomas entering as the highest-ranked player in the field at No. 2 and joined a pair of players who will launch drives all across TPC River Highlands. Watson has feasted on this layout, winning in both 2010 and 2015 among five top-10 finishes, while McIlroy tied for 17th last year in his tournament debut but missed the cut last week at Shinnecock.
Travelers Championship: Tee times, TV schedule, stats
There will be plenty of star power this week in Hartford as the PGA Tour moves north for the Travelers Championship. Here is the key info for this week's event.
How to watch:
Thursday, Rd. 1: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream
Friday, Rd. 2: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream
Saturday, Rd. 3: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.
Sunday, Rd. 4: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.
Purse: $7 million
Course: TPC River Highlands (par 70, 6,841 yards)
Defending champion: Jordan Spieth. Defeated Daniel Berger with a birdie on the first playoff hole.
Notables in the field
• Missed last two cuts (the Memorial, U.S. Open) entering this week
• 188th on PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting (4th in strokes gained: tee to green)
• Only player to win Travelers Championship back-to-back: Phil Mickelson (2001-02)
• Making third career start in Travelers Championship (last start: T-9 in 2016)
• First player to play Travelers week after U.S. Open win since 2013 (Justin Rose)
• First player to win U.S. Open back-to-back since 1988-89 (Curtis Strange)
• Fifth career start in this event (MC, T-3, MC last three years)
• Second on PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: tee to green (+1.49)
• Second career start in Travelers Championship (T-17 last year)
• Missed cut last week at U.S. Open (shot 80 in opening round)
• Fourth career start in Travelers Championship (best finish: T-18 in 2014)
• Leads PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting this season
• Earned second-most world ranking points of any player in 2018
• Finished fourth at U.S. Open last week (three shots behind Koepka)
Day 'disappointed' in USGA's handling of course, Phil
CROMWELL, Conn. – Jason Day had the weekend off following a missed cut at the U.S. Open, but that didn’t prevent the Aussie from keeping an eye on all the drama that unfolded at Shinnecock Hills.
The former world No. 1 found it “disappointing,” – with “it” being both the deterioration of a major championship setup and the fallout from Phil Mickelson’s putter slap during the third round.
Day is hoping to bounce back from an early exit at this week’s Travelers Championship, but before turning his attention to TPC River Highlands he shared that the brunt of his disappointment stemmed from the USGA’s inability to keep Shinnecock playable during the third round and their subsequent decision to water it down for the tournament’s conclusion.
“It’s more the course, about how they set it up. Because Saturday was a total, it was like two different golf courses, practically, on the greens Saturday versus Sunday,” Day said. “I just wish they would leave it alone and just let it go. Not saying to let the greens go and let them dry out and make it unfair, I’m just saying plan accordingly and hopefully whatever the score finishes, it finishes, whether it’s under par or over par.”
But Day’s frustration also tied back to Mickelson’s head-turning decision to hit a moving ball on the 13th green during the third round, and the USGA’s subsequent ruling that the actions merited a two-shot penalty but not a disqualification.
“It’s obviously disappointing to see what Phil did,” he said. “I think a lot of people have mixed reviews about what he did.”
USGA officials explained over the weekend that Mickelson’s actions explicitly fell under Rule 14-5, which called for a two-shot addition and turned his score of 8 into a 10, rather than Rule 1-2 or Rule 33-7 that could have resulted in disqualification for a “serious breach” of the rules.
Day felt it was unfortunate that all of Saturday’s drama deflected attention from a world-class performance from Brooks Koepka en route to a successful title defense, but when it comes to the handling of the Mickelson controversy he believes the USGA could have made good use of a mulligan.
“It’s just unfortunate that it happened at the USGA’s tournament, where they enforce the rules, like the R&A. And I think they may have, they probably should have enforced a different outcome for Phil,” Day said. “But it is what it is. It’s done. It’s just disappointing that that is overshadowing the winner of the whole week. I think if they had it back again, they may have chosen a different outcome.”