Golf Talk Live - Payne Stewart Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalSeptember 14, 1998, 4:00 pm
PETER KESSLER

DO YOU REMEMBER THIS DAY PAYNE?

PAYNE STEWART

YEAH, THIS IS A THIS LOOKS LIKE THE 16TH HOLE, BIRDIE PUTT, IT HAD A BIG LEFT TO RIGHT BREAKER THAT WAS, THAT WAS A SPECIAL DAY, THAT WAS A GOOD DAY, THAT WAS A GOOD DAY. THAT ONE WILL ALWAYS, I'LL ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT ONE.

PETER KESSLER

YOU KNOW AT THE TIME. AND FOR A WHILE AFTER PEOPLE SAID, OH HE BACKED INTO IT BUT YOU KNOW THE FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM IT. JUST LIKE THE

FURTHER WE GET AWAY FROM FALDO, AND NORMAN AT THE MASTERS IN 96, THE MORE THAT YOU COME TO REALIZE THAT THE MAN WHO PUTS TOGETHER THE BEST 72 HOLE SCORE DIDN'T BACK INTO THE CHAMPIONSHIP, FALDO ENDED UP WINNING BY 5 SHOTS THAT DAY. BUT YET

FOR A WHILE IT WAS NORMAN LOST THE GOLF TOURNAMENT. WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THE 89 PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, MIKE REED WHO YOU CAUGHT AND PASSED EXCEPT FOR 1 DAY, HIS SCORES WENT UP EVERY DAY AND YOU DID JUST THE OPPOSITE EXCEPT FOR ONE DAY, EVERY DAY YOUR SCORES WENT DOWN. DO YOU FEEL NOW THAT YOU WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP?

PAYNE STEWART

WELL PETER I'VE ALWAYS BELIEVED THAT I'VE WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP. IT WAS YOU KNOW THE MEDIA AND THE PEOPLE THAT I DON'T KNOW MAYBE ARE JEALOUS. WHENEVER ANYBODY TALKS BAD ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE, IT'S ALWAYS BECAUSE THEY MIGHT ME A LITTLE JEALOUS OF WHAT THEY'VE ACCOMPLISHED. AND YOU

KNOW WHEN THEY SAID THAT I BACKED INTO THE PGA, WELL FAIR ENOUGH BUT I STILL WON THE GOLF TOURNAMENT, I STILL PLAYED 72 HOLES BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE. AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE IN GOLF. IF I COULD OF PLAYED 63 HOLES AT THE UNITED STATES OPEN THIS YEAR HEY I'D A WON A SECOND US OPEN

BUT YOU GOT TO PLAY 72 HOLES, IN EVERY TOURNAMENT AND SOMETIMES 90 HOLES

WHICH THE 91 OPEN, WHICH WAS PROBABLY MORE SATISFYING THEN THE PGA FOR THE FACT THAT I LEAD EVERY DAY, OR WAS TIED FOR THE LEAD. AND THEY COULDN'T SAY THAT I BACKED INTO THAT TOURNAMENT NOW WHAT DID THEY SAY. THEY SAID, DID YOU SEE THOSE

SCORES THEY SHOT ON MONDAY, 75, 77 WHAT'S THAT. THEY HAD NO IDEA, HOW WHAT THAT GOLF COURSE WAS PLAYING LIKE. YOU KNOW, YOUR ACTUALLY OUT THERE YOUR PLAYING FOR SCORE BUT YOUR ALSO PLAYING ONE INDIVIDUAL, SCOTT SIMPSON AND IT WAS A TOUGH DAY, BUT MY SCORE AT THE END OF THE

DAY WAS LOWER THAN HIS AND THAT MEANS I WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND THEY'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME.

PETER KESSLER

IF SOMEBODY HAD SAID TO YOU AT HE BEGINNING OF THAT WEEK. YOUR GOING TO WIN THE US OPEN THIS WEEK AND THERE FOR TO FOLLOW, WINS WILL COME IN BUNCHES YOU WOULD OF BELIEVED THAT ABSOLUTELY, RIGHT?

PAYNE STEWART

WELL I WOULD OF, I WOULD OF BELIEVED THAT I WAS PREPARED ENOUGH AND MY GAME WAS READY ENOUGH TO WIN THE US OPEN THAT WEEK. NOW THE BUNCHES AFTERWARDS YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THAT, WINNING A US OPEN WOULD CONTINUE TO, YOU'D JUST BUILD ON IT. YEAH, YOU'D LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT, IT REALLY HADN'T HAPPEN IN THAT MANNER THOUGH.

PETER KESSLER

GIVE, WERE GOING TO GIVE SOME OF OUR VIEWERS A CHANCE TO ASK YOU QUESTIONS WERE GOING TO START WITH ED IN PENNSYLVANIA. HOW ARE YOU TONIGHT ED?

CALLER-ED IN PENNSYLVANIA

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

PETER KESSLER

PLEASURE

CALLER-ED IN PENNSYLVANIA

GOOD EVENING


PAYNE STEWART

HOW ARE YA?

CALLER-ED IN PENNSYLVANIA

ALL RIGHT, UM MR. STEWART.

PAYNE STEWART


YES SIR

CALLER-ED IN PENNSYLVANIA

I WAS WONDERING HOW IS YOUR DAD STILL INFLUENCING YOUR GAME THESE DAYS. I KNOW HE JUST RECENTLY PASSED AWAY NOT TOO LONG AGO, RIGHT.
PAYNE STEWART

WELL ABOUT 13, 14 YEARS AGO

CALLER-ED IN PENNSYLVANIA

OH, OH OKAY MY INFORMATION WAS WRONG I'M SORRY BUT, HOW IS HE STILL INFLUENCING YOUR GAME?

PAYNE STEWART

WELL A ED A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I LEARNED FROM HIM AND ACTUALLY I WAS DOWN IN MY GOLF ROOM THE OTHER DAY AND I'VE GOT A LESSON THAT HE'D GIVEN MY WIFE A HAND WRITTEN LESSON FOR WHAT MY WIFE WAS SUPPOSE TO LOOK FOR IN MY GOLF SWINGS AND I READ OVER

IT THE OTHER DAY. I JUST, I JUST KEEP GOING BACK TO PROBABLY THE FACT THE

COMPETITIVENESS THAT HE INSTILLED IN ME WAS PROBABLY THE SINGLE MOST FACTOR THAT, THAT HE TAUGHT ME. HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO COMPETE. HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO TRY ON ALL, AND EVERYTHING I EVER DID. EVEN NOW WHEN I COMPETE WITH MY KIDS, I DON'T

LET THEM WIN IF THEY BEAT ME THAT'S GREAT AND I'LL SHAKE THEIR HAND AND SAY CONGRATULATIONS BUT I'M NOT GOING TO LET THEM WIN. BUT THAT'S WHAT HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO DO, HE TAUGHT ME HOW TO COMPETE AND HE CAN STICK THE NEEDLE IN ME DEEPER

THAN ANYBODY I'VE EVER BEEN AROUND AND TURN IT QUICKER TOO. HE'D GET ME SO MAD ON THE GOLF COURSE IT WAS SCARY AND THEN HE KNEW HE HAD ME SO AND THEN I'D END UP HAVING TO PAY A

A COUPLE BUCKS AT THE END OF THE DAY, AND THAT HURT WORSE THAN ANYTHING.

PETER KESSLER

HOW OFTEN DO YOU THINK ABOUT, THE LAST CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD WITH HIM. WHEN HE WAS ASLEEP IN HIS CHAIR AND YOU WENT IN TO TELL HIM THAT YOU WERE GOING TO BE A DADDY.

PAYNE STEWART

YOUR TRYING TO MAKE THIS NIGHT TOUGH ON ME AREN'T YOU.


PETER KESSLER

A LITTLE BIT

PAYNE STEWART

UM, THAT'S ALWAYS A ONE OF MY MOST SPECIAL CONVERSATIONS I EVER HAD WITH MY FATHER. TELLING HIM THAT, THAT TRACY AND I WERE EXPECTING CHELSEA AND THAT WAS SPECIAL. IT WAS A, YOU KNOW I ALWAYS LOOK BACK ON THAT AND I, I MISS HIM A LOT. I WISH HE WAS, I KNOW HE'S STILL WATCHING BUT I WISH I COULD HUG HIM WHEN I WIN OR

WHATEVER, AND TALK TO HIM PERSONALLY, IT WOULD BE SPECIAL.

PETER KESSLER
FREDDY COUPLES WAS WITH US NOT TOO LONG AGO AND OF COURSE HIS FATHER PASTED AWAY LAST YEAR AND OF COURSE

IT WAS MUCH MORE RECENT BUT HE WAS SAYING THERE WERE DAYS WHEN HE GOES TO THE PHONE TO PICK IT UP AND DIAL THE NUMBER. YOU STILL FEEL THAT SOMETIMES A LITTLE BIT?

PAYNE STEWART

I, YES I STILL TALK TO HIM FREQUENTLY. I'LL DRIVING IN THE CAR GOING TO GET THE KIDS AT SCHOOL OR SOMETHING. I'LL SAY YOU KNOW DAD , YOU KNOW SEE HOW I SCREWED UP VANCOUVER THIS YEAR ON THE LAST 9 HOLES I GOT TO GET OVER THAT, AND HE'LL SAY YEAH YOU

KNOW YOU GOT TO KEEP FINISHING HIGH, AND YOU KNOW KEEP YOUR HEAD STILL AND STAY BEHIND AND.

PETER KESSLER

RIGHT FOOT UP, LEFT FOOT BACK

PAYNE STEWART

THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT

PETER KESSLER

I GOT IT, WE'LL TAKE A SHORT BREAK WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK, DON'T GO AWAY.

(BREAK)
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Berger more than ready to rebound at Travelers

By Will GrayJune 20, 2018, 9:54 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Daniel Berger hopes that this year he gets to be on the other end of a viral moment at the Travelers Championship.

Berger was a hard-luck runner-up last year at TPC River Highlands, a spectator as Jordan Spieth holed a bunker shot to defeat him in a playoff. It was the second straight year that the 25-year-old came up just short outside Hartford, as he carried a three-shot lead into the 2016 event before fading to a tie for fifth.

While he wasn’t lacking any motivation after last year’s close call, Berger got another dose last week at the U.S. Open when he joined Tony Finau as a surprise participant in the final group Sunday, only to shoot a 73 and drift to a T-6 finish.


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“It was one of the best experiences of my professional golf career so far. I feel like I’m going to be in such a better place next time I’m in that position, having felt those emotions and kind of gone through it,” Berger said. “There was a lot of reflection after that because I felt like I played good enough to get it done Sunday. I didn’t make as many putts as I wanted to, but I hit a lot of really good putts. And that’s really all you can do.”

Berger missed the cut earlier this month to end his quest for three straight titles in Memphis, but his otherwise consistent season has now included six top-20 finishes since January. After working his way into contention last week and still with a score to settle at TPC River Highlands, he’s eager to get back to work against another star-studded field.

“I think all these experiences you just learn from,” Berger said. “I think last week, having learned from that, I think that’s even going to make me a little better this week. So I’m excited to get going.”

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Rory tired of the near-misses, determined to close

By Will GrayJune 20, 2018, 9:46 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Rory McIlroy has returned to the Travelers Championship with an eye on bumping up his winning percentage.

McIlroy stormed from the back of the pack to win the Arnold Palmer Invitational in March, but that remains his lone worldwide win since the 2016 Tour Championship. It speaks to McIlroy’s considerable ability and lofty expectations that, even with a number of other high finishes this season, he is left unsatisfied.

“I feel like I’ve had five realistic chances to win this year, and I’ve been able to close out one of them. That’s a bit disappointing, I guess,” McIlroy said. “But at least I’ve given myself five chances to win golf tournaments, which is much more than I did last year.”


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The most memorable of McIlroy’s near-misses is likely the Masters, when he played alongside Patrick Reed in Sunday’s final group but struggled en route to a T-5 finish. But more frustrating in the Ulsterman’s eyes were his runner-up at the Omega Dubai Desert Classic, when he led by two shots with eight holes to go, and a second-place showing behind Francesco Molinari at the BMW PGA Championship in May.

“There’s been some good golf in there,” he said. “I feel like I let Dubai and Wentworth get away a little bit.”

He’ll have a chance to rectify that trend this week at TPC River Highlands, where he finished T-17 last year in his tournament debut and liked the course and the tournament enough to keep it on his schedule. It comes on the heels of a missed cut at the U.S. Open, when he was 10 over through 11 holes and never got on track. McIlroy views that result as more of an aberration during a season in which he has had plenty of chances to contend on the weekend.

“I didn’t necessarily play that badly last week. I feel like if I play similarly this week, I might have a good chance to win,” McIlroy said. “I think when you play in conditions like that, it magnifies parts of your game that maybe don’t stack up quite as good as the rest of your game, and it magnified a couple of things for me that I worked on over the weekend.”

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Sunday run at Shinnecock gave Reed even more confidence

By Will GrayJune 20, 2018, 9:08 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – While many big names are just coming around to the notion that the Travelers Championship is worth adding to the schedule, Patrick Reed has been making TPC River Highlands one of his favorite haunts for years.

Reed will make his seventh straight appearance outside Hartford, where he tied for fifth last year and was T-11 the year before that. He is eager to get back to the grind after a stressful week at the U.S. Open, both because of his past success here and because it will offer him a chance to build on a near-miss at Shinnecock Hills.

Reed started the final round three shots off the lead, but he quickly stormed toward the top of the leaderboard and became one of Brooks Koepka’s chief threats after birdies on five of his first seven holes. Reed couldn’t maintain the momentum in the middle of the round, carding three subsequent bogeys, and ultimately tied for fourth.


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It was a bittersweet result, but Reed is focusing on the positives after taking a couple days to reflect.

“If you would have told me that I had a chance to win coming down Sunday, I would have been pleased,” Reed said. “I felt like I just made too many careless mistakes towards the end, and because of that, you’re not going to win at any major making careless mistakes, especially on Sunday.”

Reed broke through for his first major title at the Masters, and he has now finished fourth or better in three straight majors dating back to a runner-up at the PGA last summer. With another chance to add to that record next month in Scotland, he hopes to carry the energy from last week’s close call into this week’s event on a course where he feels right at home.

“It just gives me confidence, more than anything,” Reed said. “Of course I would have loved to have closed it out and win, but it was a great week all in all, and there’s a lot of stuff I can take from it moving forward. That’s how I’m looking at it.”

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Koepka back to work, looking to add to trophy collection

By Will GrayJune 20, 2018, 8:53 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Days after ensuring the U.S. Open trophy remained in his possession for another year, Brooks Koepka went back to work.

Koepka flew home to Florida after successfully defending his title at Shinnecock Hills, celebrating the victory Monday night with Dustin Johnson, Paulina Gretzky, swing coach Claude Harmon III and a handful of close friends. But he didn’t fully unwind because of a decision to honor his commitment to the Travelers Championship, becoming the first player to tee it up the week after a U.S. Open win since Justin Rose in 2013.

Koepka withdrew from the Travelers pro-am, but he flew north to Connecticut on Wednesday and arrived to TPC River Highlands around 3 p.m., quickly heading to the driving range to get in a light practice session.

“It still hasn’t sunk in, to be honest with you,” Koepka said. “I’m still focused on this week. It was just like, ‘All right, if I can get through this week, then I’m going to be hanging with my buddies next week.’ I know then maybe it’ll sink in, and I’ll get to reflect on it a little bit more.”


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Koepka’s plans next week with friends in Boston meant this week’s event outside Hartford made logistical sense. But he was also motivated to play this week because, plainly, he hasn’t had that many playing opportunities this year after missing nearly four months with a wrist injury.

“I’ve had so many months at home being on the couch. I don’t need to spend any more time on the couch,” Koepka said. “As far as skipping, it never crossed my mind.”

Koepka’s legacy was undoubtedly bolstered by his win at Shinnecock, as he became the first player in nearly 30 years to successfully defend a U.S. Open title. But he has only one other PGA Tour win to his credit, that being the 2015 Waste Management Phoenix Open, and his goal for the rest of the season is to make 2018 his first year with multiple trophies on the mantle.

“If you’re out here for more than probably 15 events, it gives you a little better chance to win a couple times. Being on the sidelines isn’t fun,” Koepka said. “Keep doing what we’re doing and just try to win multiple times every year. I feel like I have the talent. I just never did it for whatever reason. Always felt like we ran into a buzzsaw. So just keep plugging away.”