Golf Talk Live - Raymond Floyd Transcript Segment 4
NOW THAT'S THE STARE YOU THREATENED TO GIVE ME IF I ASK THE WRONG QUESTION, RIGHT?
YOU KNOW JACK HAD THIS INCREDIBLE ROTATING GROUP OF CHALLENGERS HIS WHOLE CAREER. YOU AND ARNOLD, AND BILLY, AND GARY AND TOM AND LEE. DO YOU THINK THAT, THAT TIGER'S GOING TO NEED THAT SAME ROTATING GROUP OF CHALLENGERS TO SUSTAIN HIS LEVEL OF INTEREST IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS?
HE'S A VERY SPECIAL PERSON AND PLAYER I THINK AND I THINK THERE, THERE WILL BE THE CALIBER OF PLAYER OUT THERE THAT WILL, WILL CHALLENGE HIM, CERTAINLY. I DON'T THINK THAT
THE GUYS TODAY, MAYBE I SHOULD EXPRESS IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, I THINK THE GUYS TODAY THAT HE HAS COME IN THE GAME WITH OR WERE JUST SLIGHTLY IN FRONT OF HIM ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME BEATING HIM, BUT WHAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN IS THE YOUNGER PLAYERS THAT ARE
COLLEGIATES NOW OR PLAYERS THAT ARE TRYING TO GET OUT THERE, THEY REALIZE THAT THE BAR WAS MOVED. THAT THE GAME HAS GONE TO ANOTHER LEVEL AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MINDSET THAT THEY CAN DO IT AND THEY WILL
COME OUT AND CHALLENGE TIGER I THINK. I THINK A PHIL MICKELSON IS GOING TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP. I THINK A DAVID DUVAL'S GOING TO WIN A MAJOR CHAMPIONSHIP, SO CERTAINLY THEY'RE GOING TO BE THERE AND
THEY'RE GOING TO COMPETE WITH HIM, BUT RIGHT NOW HE IS, PHEW, IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH TO BEAT HIM.
THE OPEN GOES BACK TO SOUTHERN HILLS OF COURSE IN JUNE AND YOU WON YOUR SECOND PGA THERE IN 1982. DO YOU THINK YOU EVER PLAYED A BETTER ROUND OF GOLF THAN THE OPENING ROUND 63 TO START THAT WIRE TO WIRE WIN?
OH, 63 ON A GOLF COURSE LIKE THAT, A HUNDRED DEGREE WEATHER, A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP, OPENING ROUND. THAT'S KIND OF HARD TO BEAT THAT.
IS THAT WHEN YOU DID THE SMART PLAYING WITH THE LEAD AS OPPOSED TO BEING CONSERVATIVE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER?
UH PROBABLY. I, I CAN'T RECALL EXACTLY THE MINDSET, BUT I KNOW I WAS PLAYING WELL BUT STILL TO THINK ABOUT PUTTING UP 63 ON A GOLF COURSE LIKE THAT IS, I DON'T THINK REALISTIC,
ESPECIALLY IN A PGA CHAMPIONSHIP. ROUGH, REALLY DEEP. YOU GOT TO HIT FAIRWAYS, YOU GOT TO HIT GREENS AND THEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE PUTTS, UH, IT'S NICE TO REFLECT ON THOSE THINGS AND KNOW THAT YOU'VE DONE IT (LAUGHS).
NOW ANOTHER ROUND THAT MIGHT BE ALMOST AS GOOD, IF NOT AS GOOD AS A 63 WAS A CLOSING 66 THAT YOU SHOT AT SHINNECOCK IN 1986 TO WIN YOUR U.S. OPEN. WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THAT 66 UNDER ALL THAT PRESSURE AND THE 77 THAT YOU SHOT THE SUNDAY BEFORE AT WESTCHESTER WHEN YOU HAD BEEN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THINGS WITH A CHANCE TO WIN THAT GOLF TOURNAMENT?
WELL I THINK MARIA CAN TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT AS WELL. I HAD BEEN IN THE LEAD AT WESTCHESTER, OR TIED, I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, GOING TO THE LAST ROUND AND I THINK THE NEXT NINE PLAYERS, THE REST OF THE PLAYERS IN THE TOP TEN, COLLECTIVELY HAD NOT WON NEARLY AS MANY TITLES THAT I, AS I.
I WENT OUT AND BLEW AN ENGINE, HAD FOUR FLAT TIRES . EVERYTHING WENT TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET AND WE GOT IN THE CAR TO DRIVE FROM WESTCHESTER OUT TO LONG ISLAND FOR, FOR THE U.S. OPEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK AND ON THE DRIVE MARIA SAID, WHAT HAPPENED?
AND AGAIN, I'M GOING TO SHORTEN THIS STORY BECAUSE IT GOT A LITTLE BIT HEATED ON THE WAY OUT, BUT
AND THAT'S A THREE HOUR DRIVE
YES, IT WAS A LONG DRIVE. AND SHE PUT IT TO ME THAT YOU HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. WHAT IF YOU'RE IN CONTENTION NEXT WEEK IN THE U.S. OPEN AND YOU DON'T ADDRESS WHAT HAPPENED TODAY. WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE U.S. OPEN?
YOU'RE PLAYING WELL. COULD IT HAPPEN AGAIN? AND WHEN YOU START THINKING ABOUT IT, SURE IT COULD, SO I... FINALLY SUCCUMBED. I WAS VERY UPSET. I'M ALWAYS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT
KIND OF PUSH IT UNDER THE RUG AND LET IT GO. IT'S GOLF, IT'LL, YOU KNOW, IT'LL WORK ITSELF OUT. MARIA IS FROM THE OTHER SCHOOL AND SHE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT AND LET'S FACE IT RIGHT NOW. WE DON'T, WE DON'T WAIT AND FORTUNATELY, THROUGHOUT THAT WEEK
I GAVE SOME THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE THIS? WHAT, WHY DID YOU SHOOT 77. TO THIS DAY I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW WHY I SHOT 77. I'VE HAD THOSE ROUNDS BEFORE AND, AND ALL
OF US HAVE. WHEN THE WHEELS COME OFF, IT IS THE HARDEST SHIP TO RIGHT THAT YOU'VE EVER SEEN, BUT THE KEY IS TO NOT LET IT START SLIPPING. I THINK THAT'S THE REAL KEY, AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET AN OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE TO CAPITALIZE BECAUSE YOU DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF CHANCES TO WIN ANY EVENT AND ESPECIALLY A MAJOR, SO, I THINK MARIA HAS THAT TROPHY ON HER MANTLE, ALONG WITH A LOT OF OTHERS THAT I'VE, THAT I'VE GOTTEN CREDIT FOR.
WE'VE GOT ANOTHER TROPHY OF YOURS THAT WE'RE GOING TO RUN INTO, ANOTHER WINNING FLOYD, YOUR SON ROBERT, AS SOON AS WE COME BACK. DON'T GO AWAY.
THERE'S RAY AND RAY JUNIOR.
THERE'S RAY AND ROBERT, AND THE THREE OF THEM HAVE WON THE FATHER-SON CHALLENGE FOUR TIMES BETWEEN THEM.
Tiger Tracker: 147th Open Championship
Following an even-par 71 in the first round of the 147th Open Championship, Tiger Woods looks to make a move on Day 2 at Carnoustie.
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McIlroy responds to Harmon's 'robot' criticism
CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Rory McIlroy said during his pre-championship news conference that he wanted to play more "carefree" – citing Jon Rahm’s approach now and the way McIlroy played in his younger days.
McIlroy got off to a good start Thursday at Carnoustie, shooting 2-under 69, good for a share of eighth place.
But while McIlroy admits to wanting to be a little less structured on the course, he took offense to comments made by swing coach Butch Harmon during a Sky Sports telecast.
“Rory had this spell when he wasn’t putting good and hitting the ball good, and he got so wrapped up in how he was going to do it he forgot how to do it.
“He is one of the best players the game has ever seen. If he would just go back to being a kid and playing the way he won these championships and play your game, don’t have any fear or robotic thoughts. Just play golf. Just go do it.
“This is a young kid who’s still one of the best players in the world. He needs to understand that. Forget about your brand and your endorsement contracts. Forget about all that. Just go back to having fun playing golf. I still think he is one of the best in the world and can be No.1 again if he just lets himself do it.”
McIlroy, who has never worked with Harmon, responded to the comments when asked about them following his opening round.
“Look, I like Butch. Definitely, I would say I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum than someone that's mechanical and someone that's – you know, it's easy to make comments when you don't know what's happening,” McIlroy said. “I haven't spoken to Butch in a long time. He doesn't know what I'm working on in my swing. He doesn't know what's in my head. So it's easy to make comments and easy to speculate. But unless you actually know what's happening, I just really don't take any notice of it.”
McIlroy second round at The Open began at 2:52 a.m. ET.
How The Open cut line is determined
Scores on Day 1 of the 147th Open Championship ranged from 5-under 66 to 11-over 82.
The field of 156 players will be cut nearly in half for weekend play at Carnoustie. Here’s how the cut line works in the season’s third major championship:
• After 36 holes, the low 70 players and ties will advance to compete in the final two rounds. Anyone finishing worse than that will get the boot. Only those making the cut earn official money from the $10.5 million purse.
• There is no 10-shot rule. That rule means anyone within 10 shots of the lead after two rounds, regardless of where they stand in the championship, make the cut. It’s just a flat top 70 finishers and ties.
• There is only a single cut at The Open. PGA Tour events employ an MDF (Made cut Did not Finish) rule, which narrows the field after the third round if more than 78 players make the cut. That is not used at this major.
The projected cut line after the first round this week was 1 over par, which included 71 players tied for 50th or better.
The Open 101: A guide to the year's third major
Take a look at some answers to frequently asked questions about The Open:
What's all this "The Open" stuff? I thought it was the British Open.
What you call it has historically depended on where you were. If you were in the U.S., you called it the British Open, just as Europeans refer to the PGA Championship as the U.S. PGA. Outside the U.S. it generally has been referred to as The Open Championship. The preferred name of the organizers is The Open.
How old is it?
It's the oldest golf championship, dating back to 1860.
Where is it played?
There is a rotation – or "rota" – of courses used. Currently there are 10: Royal Birkdale, Royal St. George's, Royal Liverpool and Royal Lytham and St. Annes, all in England; Royal Portrush in Northern Ireland and St. Andrews, Carnoustie, Royal Troon, Turnberry and Muirfield, all in Scotland. Muirfield was removed from the rota in 2016 when members voted against allowing female members, but when the vote was reversed in 2017 it was allowed back in.
Where will it be played this year?
At Carnoustie, which is located on the south-eastern shore of Scotland.
Who has won The Open on that course?
Going back to the first time Carnoustie hosted, in 1931, winners there have been Tommy Armour, Henry Cotton (1937), Ben Hogan (1953), Gary Player (1968), Tom Watson (1975), Paul Lawrie (1999), Padraig Harrington (2007).
Wasn't that the year Hogan nearly won the Slam?
Yep. He had won the Masters and U.S. Open that season, then traveled to Carnoustie and won that as well. It was the only time he ever played The Open. He was unable to play the PGA Championship that season because the dates conflicted with those of The Open.
Jean Van de Velde's name should be on that list, right?
This is true. He had a three-shot lead on the final hole in 1999 and made triple bogey. He lost in a playoff to Lawrie, which also included Justin Leonard.
Who has won this event the most?
Harry Vardon, who was from the Channel Island of Jersey, won a record six times between 1896 and 1914. Australian Peter Thomson, American Watson, Scot James Braid and Englishman J.H. Taylor each won five times.
What about the Morrises?
Tom Sr. won four times between 1861 and 1867. His son, Tom Jr., also won four times, between 1868 and 1872.
Have players from any particular country dominated?
In the early days, Scots won the first 29 Opens – not a shocker since they were all played at one of three Scottish courses, Prestwick, St. Andrews and Musselburgh. In the current era, going back to 1999 (we'll explain why that year in a minute), the scoreboard is United States, nine wins; South Africa, three wins; Ireland, two wins; Northern Ireland, two wins; and Sweden, one win. The only Scot to win in that period was Lawrie, who took advantage of one of the biggest collapses in golf history.
Who is this year's defending champion?
That would be American Jordan Spieth, who survived an adventerous final round to defeat Matt Kuchar by three strokes and earn the third leg of the career Grand Slam.
What is the trophy called?
The claret jug. It's official name is the Golf Champion Trophy, but you rarely hear that used. The claret jug replaced the original Challenge Belt in 1872. The winner of the claret jug gets to keep it for a year, then must return it (each winner gets a replica to keep).
Which Opens have been the most memorable?
Well, there was Palmer in 1961and '62; Van de Velde's collapse in 1999; Hogan's win in 1953; Tiger Woods' eight-shot domination of the 2000 Open at St. Andrews; Watson almost winning at age 59 in 2009; Doug Sanders missing what would have been a winning 3-foot putt at St. Andrews in 1970; Tony Jacklin becoming the first Briton to win the championship in 18 years; and, of course, the Duel in the Sun at Turnberry in 1977, in which Watson and Jack Nicklaus dueled head-to-head over the final 36 holes, Watson winning by shooting 65-65 to Nicklaus' 65-66.
When I watch this tournament on TV, I hear lots of unfamiliar terms, like "gorse" and "whin" and "burn." What do these terms mean?
Gorse is a prickly shrub, which sometimes is referred to as whin. Heather is also a shrub. What the scots call a burn, would also be considered a creek or stream.