Golf Talk Live - Tom Watson Transcript Segment 6

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 29, 2001, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
WE'RE NOT GOING TO LET BARNEY ANSWER THIS ONE. OF ALL YOUR WINS IN MAJORS AGAINST JACK, WHICH ONE MEANS THE MOST TO YOU? GORDON ARNOLD WANTS TO KNOW.

TOM WATSON
(LAUGHS)
WELL IT, IT, HONESTLY IT'S A TOSS UP, PETER, BECAUSE I PLAYED, I PLAYED BETTER AT THE BRITISH OPEN IN TURNBURY IN '77. THAT WAS, THAT WAS JUST A HEAD TO HEAD BATTLE WE PLAYED TOGETHER BUT I'D HAVE TO SAY, WINNING AT U.S. , THE U.S. OPEN AGAINST JACK, AT PEBBLE BEACH, PROBABLY TAKES THE NOD. THAT WAS MY DREAM COME TRUE.

THAT LITERALLY WAS A DREAM BECAUSE I, GOING TO STANFORD I'D GO DOWN TO PEBBLE BEACH AND I'D GET OFF AT 7:00 IN THE MORNING AND GO OUT AND PLAY AND TRY TO SHOOT A SCORE AND, YOU KNOW, PLAY ACT LIKE I'M PLAYING AGAINST

JACK NICKLAUS IN THE U.S. OPEN AT PEBBLE BEACH, AND THAT DREAM DID COME TRUE AND I'D HAVE TO GIVE THAT TO NOD.

PETER KESSLER
WHEN YOU WERE A LITTLE BOY HITTING 5 FOOTERS, WAS THAT FOR THE OPEN ALSO. WAS THAT THE ONE TOURNAMENT?

TOM WATSON
NO. THOSE WERE FOR DIMES. THOSE WERE FOR DIMES AND NICKELS.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE ALONE HITTING THE 5 FOOTERS.

TOM WATSON
OH, UH... NO, I USED TO PLAY A GAME ON THE PUTTING CLOCK. I'D TAKE THREE BALLS, NINE HOLES AND I'D GO AROUND AND I'D TRY TO, GO AROUND WITH 27 PUTTS, NOT THREE PUTT ONCE, AND BE AT LEAST, AT LEAST 9 UNDER PAR. NINE ACES IN 27 HOLES.

PETER KESSLER
FOR SOME OF US WE'D BE THERE A LONG TIME.

TOM WATSON
(LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
LET'S CHECK IN WITH JOE FROM TEXAS. GO AHEAD JOE.

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
PETER AND TOM, IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO BE ON WITH YOU.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU SIR.

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
TOM, I'VE, I'VE ADMIRED YOUR SKILL FOR MANY YEARS, I'M 60 YEARS OLD.

TOM WATSON
I'M NOT TOO FAR AWAY FROM YOU.

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
YOU'RE A GRETA PUTTER AND MOST OF ALL YOU'RE A CLASSY GUY. DO YOU NOW, DO NOT FEEL INSULTED BY THIS QUESTION, IT'S NOT A TRICK QUESTION.

TOM WATSON
(LAUGHS) OKAY.

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
DID YOU KNOW THERE'S A SCIENTIFIC SECRET TO PUTTING?

TOM WATSON
I WISH YOU WOULD TELL ME WHAT IT IS.

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
WELL I'LL GIVE YOU THE FIRST PART.

TOM WATSON
OKAY

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
IF YOU DO NOT KEEP YOUR EYES FOCUSED PARALLEL TO THE PUTTING PATH YOU WILL NOT SEE THE HOLE AS WELL AS YOU SHOULD. THERE'S, THERE'S A SCIENTIFIC SECRET.

TOM WATSON
WELL THAT DOESN'T SEEM

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
THE REASON

TOM WATSON
YEAH

JOE, CALLER FROM TEXAS (MALE):
FOR WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T

TOM WATSON
YOU KNOW I, AS JOE TODAY, I WAS OUT WITH DAVID LEADBETTER AND HE, WHAT HE TOLD ME TO, ABOUT MY EYES. HE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOUR EYES ARE NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY DOWN AT THE BALL AND WHAT HE DID, HE SAID, INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE THIS AT THE BALL, HE SAID, BEND

YOUR, BEND YOUR HEAD OVER LIKE THIS SO I'M LOOKING DIRECTLY DOWN AND NOW I'M SEEING THE LINE A LOT BETTER.

PETER KESSLER
JOE MAY HAVE FED THAT TO DAVID LEADBETTER.

TOM WATSON
YEAH HE MAY HAVE DONE THAT IS RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
ABOUT YOUR PUTTING, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN WE COULD ALL DO YOUR ROUTINE IN OUR HEAD. JUST LIKE WE CAN DO NICKLAUS' PRE-SHOT ROUTINE FOR OUR FULL SHOT IN OUR HEAD. TWO, TWO SWINGS OF THE PUTTER

TOM WATSON
MHMM

PETER KESSLER
AND GO. THEN THERE WAS A TIME WHERE I FELT LIKE YOU SORT OF WEREN'T IN YOUR ROUTINE ANYMORE WHEN YOU WEREN'T PUTTING AS WELL AS YOU DID WHEN YOU WERE IN THE ROUTINE. WHERE ARE YOU NOW?

TOM WATSON
WELL RIGHT NOW, AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU, YOU'RE ALWAYS EXPERIMENTING WHEN YOU'RE NOT DOING THINGS THE WAY YOU, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU SHOULD AND, AND AGAIN, I, I WORKED WITH, WITH, WITH DAVID AND ONE OF THE THINGS HE SAID, VERY SIMPLY

WAS THAT MY ELBOWS AND MY BODY WERE NOT WORKING TOGETHER. THEY, MY ELBOWS WERE OUT A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS, LIKE LEO DEAGLE. REMEMBER LEO DEAGLE

PETER KESSLER
ABSOLUTELY

TOM WATSON
AND HE'D LEAN OUT LIKE THIS, AND BRUCE MY CADDIE SAYS SOMETIMES I LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, MY EYES, MY, I'M KIND OF FLOPPY OUT HERE AND JUST KIND OF THIS WAY

AND DAVID JUST SAID, ALRIGHT, JUST BRING THE LEFT, JUST BRING, BRING IT IN A LITTLE BIT LIKE THIS, AND I WAS WATCHING GEORGE ARCHER LAST WEEK AT THE MASTER CARD CHAMPIONSHIP IN HAWAII AND I NOTICED THAT HIS ELBOW WAS IN LIKE THIS. HIS LEFT ELBOW IN PARTICULAR LIKE THIS, AND IT MAKES,

IT MAKES THE PUTTER FLOW BACK AND FORTH. I'VE HAD THE, I'VE HAD THE TOUGHEST TIME ON SHORT PUTTS. THAT PUTTER, WITH THE PUTTER GOING JUST STRAIGHT INSIDE, AND THE REASON IS I'M, I'M OUT HERE LIKE THIS AND THAT THE LEFT ELBOW KIND OF GOES THIS WAY

AND THE CLUB COMES RIGHT INSIDE SO, MAYBE I'VE SOLVED THE PROBLEM WITH SOME HELP FROM OBSERVATION OF GEORGE ARCHER AND THE HELP FROM DAVID.

PETER KESSLER
AND YOU KNOW DEAGLE WAS A TERRIBLE PUTTER. JONES USED TO SAY

TOM WATSON
OH HE WAS AWFUL, WASN'T HE?

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)
HE WAS A BRILLIANT BALL STRIKER AND IF HE MADE PUTTS IT WAS A SERIES OF HAPPY ACCIDENTS.

TOM WATSON AND PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHING)

TOM WATSON
GREAT LINE. GREAT LINE.

PETER KESSLER
BACK TO SPEND A COUPLE MORE MINUTES WITH TOM.

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Garcia leads as Valderrama Masters extends to Monday

By Will GrayOctober 21, 2021, 3:52 pm

Weather continues to be the enemy at the Andalucia Valderrama Masters, where Sergio Garcia remains in front as the tournament heads for a Monday finish.

European Tour officials had already ceded the fact that 72 holes would not be completed this week in Spain, but players were not even able to finish 54 holes before another set of thunderstorms rolled in Sunday afternoon to once again halt play. Garcia remains in front at 10 under, having played seven holes of the third round in even par, while Lee Westwood is alone in second at 7 under.

Officials had previously stated an intention to play at least 54 holes, even if that meant extending the tournament to Monday, given that this is the final chance for many players to earn Race to Dubai points in an effort to secure European Tour cards for 2019. Next week's WGC-HSBC Champions will be the final event of the regular season, followed by a three-event final series.


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Garcia, who won the tournament last year, started the third round with a four-shot lead over Ashley Chesters. He balanced one birdie with one bogey and remains in position for his first worldwide victory since the Asian Tour's Singapore Open in January.

Westwood, who has his son Sam on the bag this week, made the biggest charge up the leaderboard with four birdies over his first eight holes. He'll have 10 holes to go when play resumes at 9:10 a.m. local time Monday as he looks to win for the first time since the 2015 Indonesian Masters.

Shane Lowry and Gonzalo Fernandez-Castano are tied for third at 6 under, four shots behind Garcia with 10 holes to play, while Chesters made two double bogeys over his first four holes to drop into a tie for sixth.

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After Further Review: American success stories

By Golf Channel DigitalOctober 21, 2018, 8:35 pm

Each week, GolfChannel.com takes a look back at the week in golf. Here's what's weighing on our writers' minds.

On the global nature of Koepka's rise to No. 1 ...

Brooks Koepka is an American superstar, and a two-time winner of his national open. But his rise to world No. 1 in, of all places, South Korea, emphasizes the circuitous, global path he took to the top.

After winning the CJ Cup by four shots, Koepka was quick to remind reporters that he made his first-ever start as a pro in Switzerland back in 2012. He cracked the top 500 for the first time with a win in Spain, and he broke into the top 100 after a good week in the Netherlands.

Koepka languished on the developmental Challenge Tour for a year before earning a promotion to the European Tour, and he didn’t make a splash in the States until contending at the 2014 U.S. Open at Pinehurst.

It’s a testament to Koepka’s adaptability and raw talent that he can handle the heights of Crans-Montana as well as the slopes of Shinnecock Hills or rough of Nine Bridges. And as the scene shifts to China next week, it highlights the global nature of today’s game – and the fact that the best in the world can rise to the occasion on any continent. - Will Gray


On the resurgence of American women  ...

American women are on a nice roll again. Danielle Kang’s victory Sunday at the Buick LPGA Shanghai was the third by an American over the last five events. Plus, Annie Park and Marina Alex, emerging American talents looking for their second victories this season, tied for second. So did American Brittany Altomare. Two years ago, Americans won just twice, their fewest victories in a single season in LPGA history. Overall, women from the United States have won seven times this season.

The Americans are making their move with Stacy Lewis on maternity leave and with Lexi Thompson, the highest ranked American in the world, still looking for her first victory this year. Yes, the South Koreans have won nine times this season, but with four LPGA events remaining in 2018 the Americans actually have a chance to be the winningest nation in women’s golf this year. With all the grief they’ve received the last few years, that would be a significant feat. - Randall Mell

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In Buick win, Kang overcame demons of mind and spirit

By Randall MellOctober 21, 2018, 3:33 pm

Danielle Kang beat three of the most formidable foes in golf Sunday to win the Buick LPGA Shanghai.

Anxiety.

Frustration.

Anger.

Kang overcame these demons of mind and spirit to win for the second time on tour, backing up her KPMG Women’s PGA Championship victory last year.

“I’ve been going through a lot mentally,” Kang said.

Kang birdied four of the last eight holes to close with a 3-under-par 69, coming from one shot back in the final round to win. At 13-under 275, she finished two shots ahead of a pack of seven players, including world No. 2 Ariya Jutanugarn (71) and former world No. 1 Lydia Ko (66).

It hasn’t been easy for Kang trying to build on her major championship breakthrough last year. She started the fall Asian swing having missed three cuts in a row, five in her last six starts.

“I had to go through swing changes,” Kang said. “I had the swing yips, the putting yips, everything possibly you could think of.

“I was able to get over a lot of anxiety I was feeling when I was trying to hit a golf ball. This week I just kept trusting my golf game.”

Through her swoon, Kang said she was struggling to get the club back, that she was getting mentally stuck to where she could not begin her takeaway. She sought out Butch Harmon, back at her Las Vegas home, for help. She said tying for third at the KEB Hana Bank Championship last week felt like a victory, though she was still battling her demons there.

“Anxiety over tee balls,” Kang said. “People might wonder what I'm doing. I actually can't pull the trigger. It has nothing to do with the result. Having to get over that last week was incredible for me. Even on the first round, one shot took me, I think, four minutes.”

Kang, who turned 26 on Saturday, broke through to win last year under swing coach David Leadbetter, but she began working with Harmon while struggling in the second half this year.


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“I was actually very frustrated, even yesterday,” Kang said. “Things just weren't going my way. The biggest thing that Butch tells me is to stay out of my own way. I just couldn't do that. If I had a short putt, I just kept doubting myself. I couldn't putt freely.”

Kang said her anger and frustration built up again on the front nine Sunday. She made the turn at 1 over for the round. She said her caddie, Oliver Brett, helped her exorcise some anger. After the ninth hole, he pulled her aside.

This is how Kang remembered the conversation:

Brett: “Whatever you need to do to let your anger out and restart and refresh, you need to do that now.”

Kang: “Cameras are everywhere. I just want to hit the bag really hard.”

Brett: “Here's a wedge. Just smash it.”

Kang did.

“Honestly, I thank him for that,” Kang said. “He told me there are a lot birdies out there. I regrouped, and we pretended we started the round brand new on the 10th hole. Then things changed and momentum started going my way. I started hitting it closer and felt better over the putts.”

Kang said the victory was all about finding a better place mentally.

“I'm just so happy to be where I'm at today,” Kang said. “I'm just happy that I won.

“More so than anything, I'm finally at a place where I'm peaceful and happy with my game, with my life . . . . I hope I win more. I did the best I can. I'm going to keep working hard and keep giving myself chances and keep putting myself in contention. I'll win more. I'll play better.”

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Goal for new world No. 1 Koepka: Stay healthy

By Will GrayOctober 21, 2018, 1:38 pm

Last season Brooks Koepka bagged a pair of majors en route to the PGA Tour's Player of the Year award. He started the new wraparound season with an emphatic win at the CJ Cup to reach world No. 1 for the first time.

But amid the best form of his career, Koepka has a simple goal in mind as he gets ready to turn his attention to the new year.

"Stay healthy," Koepka told reporters. "That's been the big thing. I need to be healthy to be able to play all these events, play all the majors."

Koepka's breakthrough year comes despite the fact that he missed four months in the spring, including the Masters, while recovering from a wrist injury. He hit the ground running once he returned, with strong finishes at TPC Sawgrass and Colonial preceding wins at the U.S. Open and PGA Championship.

Now Koepka has added a third trophy after cruising to a four-shot win in South Korea on Sunday that allowed him to move past Dustin Johnson at world No. 1.

"I'm 1-for-1 this year, which is nice," Koepka joked about his undefeated record in the new wraparound season.

Koepka will be in the field next week in China for the WGC-HSBC Champions before putting the clubs on the shelf. With Justin Thomas paving the way by making the goal-setting process more public in recent years, Koepka explained that even after summiting the world rankings he plans to wait until 2019 to adjust his expectations for himself.

"I keep the same goals through the calendar year," Koepka said. "On Jan. 1 I go to the beach in the morning and go write down my goals and figure them out for the calendar year, but I just need to finish this year off. I've got next week and I would like to, coming out the first week as No. 1, I'd like to play well."