Golf Talk Live - World Golf Village Special Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalNovember 20, 2000, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR 5 YEARS TO GET JACK BURKE, JR. TO COME VISIT US AT THE GOLF CHANNEL. HE IS CAPTIVE HERE AT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE HAS AGREED TO BE WITH US TONIGHT. IT'S A
PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANKS PETER. NICE TO SEE YOU.

PETER KESSLER
OTHER THAN SUGGESTING THAT YOU WERE IN FLORIDA TO SORT OUT THE VOTING PROBLEM.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOUR FRIEND AND PARTNER AND GREAT PLAYER, JIMMY DEMARETT SAY ABOUT YOUR INDUCTION INTO THE WORLD GOLF HALL OF FAME TODAY?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, I'VE DONE THIS ONE OTHER TIME. JIMMY SAID, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THIS WAS EARLY ON. WE HAD ONE THAT

DIDN'T QUIET MAKE IT AND THEN HE SAID, WHAT KIND OF SPEECH DO YOU WANT TO USE? I'VE GOT A LOT OF HALL OF FAME SPEECHES.

(KESSLER AND BURKE LAUGH)

PETER KESSLER
ALL OF THEM FUNNY AND ALL WITH SINGING, RIGHT?

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT. RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU TALKED DURING YOUR INDUCTION SPEECH ABOUT ALL OF THE GREAT UNSUNG TEACHER HEROES

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS GAME, INCLUDING YOUR DAD.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID FELLOWS, LIKE YOUR DAD, AND JACK GROUT AND, AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND PAUL RUNYAN

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID THEY FIND THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOLF SWING THAT HAS STOOD UP FOR ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS NOW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THEY ALL HAD TO TEACH, MAKE A LIVING AND THEY WERE ALL UH, GREAT, YOU KNOW TEACHING, PETER, IS, IS A VERY PERSONAL THING. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY KNOW THE PERSON AND FEEL

PAIN TO TEACH. YOU'VE GOT TO HOPE HE MAKES IT. THAT'S THE WAY YOU TEACH. YOU CAN'T PUT IMPLEMENTS AROUND AND, AND JACKETS ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO TEACH. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO RECEIVE THE PAIN.

THERE'S NO PAIN IN ME KICKING BALLS IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S PAIN IN ME HOPING THAT YOU MAKE IT AND WATCHING YOU MAKE IT AND, AND WATCHING YOU COMPETE AND TEACHING YOU HOW TO COMPETE AND, AND JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE THINGS THAT YOU

GO THROUGH IN COMPETING. IT, HITTING A GOLF BALL, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT. GOLF IS INSIDE OF YOU AND YOU HAVE TO BRING IT OUT SOMEHOW. EVERYBODY'S GOT A SWING OF SOME KIND. YOU JUST GOT TO FIND, FIND WHAT THE HELL HE CAN DO WITH IT. WHAT HE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE GUYS, FAT GUYS, TALL GUYS.

PETER KESSLER
IN 1952, WHEN YOU HAD YOUR SWING AND PERHAPS AS GOOD AS IT EVER WAS, AND YOU WON FOUR TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW THAT YEAR, WHAT WAS THE TOUGHEST PART OF WINNING FOUR IN A ROW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
I WAS TRYING TO COUNT MY MONEY (LAUGHS) . WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, YOU KNOW WE WEREN'T PLAYING FOR ANY MONEY. I WON 4 IN A ROW AND YOU GOT TWO THOUSAND BUCKS A WEEK. THE TOUR WE WERE ON, WE WERE ALL TEACHERS, AND WE TAUGHT IN THE

EASTERN SEABOARD. WE'RE ALL KIDS FROM THE SOUTH. THERE WAS NO MONEY IN THE SOUTH. NO GOLF CLUBS IN THE SOUTH. NOBODY PLAYED GOLF. THEY, DRUG, DUG OIL WELLS SO

WE WERE ALL IN NEW YORK. HOGAN WAS UP THERE, BYRON NELSON WAS UP THERE, DEMARRET WAS UP THERE, LOYD MANGRUM, EVERYBODY HAD A CLUB. SAM STILL HAS CLUBS. HAUGE'S NEVER

HAD, HE'S A HUNDRED AND, HE HASN'T GIVEN THEM UP YET AND I HAVEN'T EITHER, BUT CLUBS WERE OUR LIVES AND THE AMATEUR PLAYER IS THE GUY THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE THE REVERENCE FOR. I MEAN I HAVE, I MEAN A GUY THAT'S

A LAWYER AND IS A 3 HANDICAP, I'VE GOT TO HAND IT TO HIM, BECAUSE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, PETER, A PRO AND AN AMATEUR IS WHO GETS TO PLAY

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE UH YOU KNOW, A BAD PLAYER, A GOOD PLAYER IS JUST A BAD PLAYER THAT DIDN'T QUIT. THAT'S ALL THERE IS. JUST DON'T QUIT, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE AMATEUR PLAYERS DO. DOCTORS AND LAWYERS THAT ARE ALL GREAT PLAYERS. I'M, I'M NOT IN TOO

MUCH SYMPATHY WITH THE GUY THAT JUST WANTS TO PLAY A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT GOING TO EVER GET IT, BUT YOU'VE GOT GUYS THAT HAVE GOT A LOT OF HOURS IN GOLF. I MEAN IT TAKES 5 HOURS TO PLAY GOLF AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE A 3 HANDICAPPER.

YOU CALCULATE THOSE WAGES UP FROM A LAWYER OR A DENTIST OR A DOCTOR. THAT'S A LOT, A LOT OF, HE'S GOT A LOT OF MONEY IN HIS GAME. A LOT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU ONCE SAID THAT LOSERS ARE RESULT ORIENTED AND WINNERS ARE EXECUTION ORIENTED.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME.

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, THE, THE, WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU GO OUT ON SUNDAY TO TRY AND PLAY, AND YOU GET ALL INVOLVED IN YOUR PRESENTATION SPEECH IF YOU WIN. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO IF I BECOME FAMOUS? ALL THAT GET IS A, IS A WAGON

YOU'RE PULLING AND YOU GET HURT WITH THAT, AND IF YOU CAN GO OUT AND JUST EXECUTE THE SHOTS THAT YOU KNOW, PLAY THE NOTES THAT YOU KNOW, SING THE SONG THAT YOU CAN SING. DON'T BE TRYING TO BE SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE NOT. YOU MIGHT SURVIVE THE DAY, BUT 5 HOURS IS A LONG TIME OUT THERE, TRYING TO WIN, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF HEAT ON YOU AND YOU DON'T NEED THAT AT THAT TIME. YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD PUT THE FIRST BALL IN THE

FAIRWAY, THE VERY FIRST SHOT YOU HIT, THAT'S ALMOST WINNING. IF THAT DUDE GOES SIDEWAYS THOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DAY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WAS THE THING THAT YOU DISCOVERED ABOUT YOUR OWN GAME WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING YOUR BEST THAT MADE YOU FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE YOUR MAJOR KEY FOR YOUR GOLF SWING?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THAT HAPPENED TO ME ONE TIME IN A MOTEL. I FOUND MY GOLF SWING. I WAS A, I WENT TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND WE HAD A TEACHER THAT TAUGHT US, ONE DAY, ABOUT FIRST THINGS FIRST, AND IT WAS ABOUT THE POLITICS AND THE

WEDDINGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE FIRST THINGS FIRST COMES UP FROM AND I WAS SITTING THERE, I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY COMING. I WAS LEADING THE TOURNAMENT. I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY

WAS GOING TO HIT ME AND I THOUGHT WELL, HOW IS THIS FATHER HIGGINS THING GOING TO HELP ME HERE TODAY WITH THIS FIRST THINGS FIRST. I SAID WELL THE FIRST THING YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS GET A TEE. TEE THE BALL UP. PUT THE FACE DOWN THERE AND JUST HOPE YOU CAN HIT A NINETY. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT

TO DO TODAY. I SHOT A SIXTY-SEVEN, AND GOT OUT BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T ANY MORE THINK BUT JUST THAT. IF YOU CAN TAKE A CLUB, SAY LOFT, AND HIT NINETY, YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY WELL. THE CROOKED BALLS GO THIS WAY AND THIS

WAY THEY DIDN'T HIT A NINETY. SO, WITH DRIVERS OR PUTTERS OR IRONS, IF YOU CAN CRACK THAT NINETY ON THE LINE THAT YOU'RE GOING ON, YOU CAN PLAY GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
HOW COULD YOU MAKE THE NINETY, THE ANGLE, WITHOUT BEING TOO CAREFUL DURING THE PROCESS?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ONE THING, THERE'S A CERTAIN RECKLESSNESS, PETER, TO GOLF. GOLF IS NOT A, IT IS A HIGH RISK GAME, AND IT, IT TAKES A PERSON THAT
HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RECKLESSNESS IN HIM TO BE GOOD.

NOW YOU CAN BE GOOD, AND, AND THEN HOLD ONTO ALL YOUR POCKET MONEY BUT IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD, YOU`VE GOT TO THROW IT OUT THERE AND, AND HAVE SOME RECKLESSNESS AND JUST HOPE THAT IT, IT, IT ISN'T TOO RECKLESS.

PETER KESSLER
JACK, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANK YOU

PETER KESSLER
AND I HOPE THAT WHEN I CALL YOU AND I ASK YOU TO COME TO ORLANDO WE CAN FIND A DATE TO DO THAT TOGETHER.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YES SIR, FINE.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YOU BET

PETER KESSLER
GREAT PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU. WE'LL BE BACK WITH HALL OF FAMER, JUDY RANKIN, DON'T GO AWAY.
(BREAK)

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Like a tattoo: Ko shares early Mediheal lead

By Randall MellApril 26, 2018, 10:45 pm

Lydia Ko put herself in early position Thursday to try to extend her birthday celebration through Sunday at the LPGA Mediheal Championship.

Ko, who turned 21 on Tuesday, is off to a strong start at Lake Merced Golf Club, where she has a lot of good memories to draw upon as she seeks to regain the winning form that made her the greatest teen phenom in the history of the women’s game.

With a 4-under-par 68, Ko moved into a four-way tie for the lead among the morning wave in the first round. I.K. Kim, Jessica Korda and Caroline Hedwall also opened with 68s.

All Ko has to do is look at her right wrist to feel good about returning to San Francisco. That’s where she tattooed the date April 27, 2014, in Roman numerals. That’s how she commemorated her Swinging Skirts victory at Lake Merced, her first title as an LPGA member. She won there again the following year.

“This is a golf course where I've played well,” Ko said. “The fans have been amazing. They’ve been super supportive every single time I've come here, even since I played the U.S. Juniors here.”


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Ko made it to the semifinals of the U.S. Girls’ Junior at Lake Merced in 2012.

“It just brings back a lot of great memories,” she said.

Ko got this week off to a good start with friends from South Korea and New Zealand flying to California to surprise her on her birthday. She was born in South Korea and grew up in New Zealand.

“Turning 21 is a huge thing in the United States,” Ko cracked. “I’m legal now, and I can do some fun things.”

Ko is looking to claim her 15th LPGA title and end a 21-month winless spell. Her ball striking was sharp Thursday, as she continues to work on improvements under her swing coach, Ted Oh. She hit 11 of 14 fairways and 16 of 18 greens in regulation.

“My ball striking's been getting better these last few weeks, which has been really nice,” Ko said at week’s start. “But then I've been struggling with putting, which was the aspect of the game that was going really well. I feel like the pieces are there, and just, sometimes, the hardest thing is to kind of put all those pieces together. Just have to stay patient, I know there are a lot of good things happening.”

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Watch: Rose drops trou despite gator danger

By Golf Channel DigitalApril 26, 2018, 10:12 pm

We all know how fashion-conscious pro golfers are, and sometimes that even trumps modesty.

Take Justin Rose, whose tee shot on the par-3 third hole in Thursday's opening round of the Zurich Classic found the water. But the ball was close enough to shore for Rose to try to play it. Not wanting to get his light-colored pants dirty - what is up with all the white pants on Tour these days, anyway? - he took them off to play the shot.

If there were any gators in the water hazard - and this being Louisiana, there almost certainly were - they showed no interest in the Englishman.

It was only appropriate that Rose should strip down for a shot, as his partner, Henrik Stenson, famously did the same thing (to an even greater degree) at Doral in 2009.

Finally, just to provide some closure, Rose failed to get up and down.

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Like father like son: Bring Your Child to Work Day

By Jay CoffinApril 26, 2018, 7:51 pm

ORLANDO, Fla. – Today is Take Our Sons and Daughters to Work Day at Golf Channel, where everything is fun and games until your child promptly says something that embarrasses you beyond belief. It’s only happened six times today. So far.

My daughter, 12, is in middle school and feels like she’s too big for this sort of shindig. But my son Brady, 11, was all in. The deal was that he could spend the day with me, I’d take him to McDonald’s for lunch, but he had to write a golf story of some sort for GolfChannel.com.

Here is his unedited work, in all its glory:

By BRADY COFFIN

My name is Brady Coffin and I play golf. I started at the age of 4 years old. My two favorite golfers are Jordan Spieth and Tiger Woods. They are really good golfers and every time I watch them they always give me tips.

My dad Jay Coffin is the best editor of Golf Channel and always gave me tips when I first put the golf club in my hand. I had my very first par in Hilton Head when I was 7 years old. I am on the Drive, Chip and Putt commercial and I was in a movie where I played a young Ben Hogan. My favorite golf course is Royal Blue in the Bahamas.

I have won many golf tournaments and I am going to play in another tournament next month. I have made a couple of birdies. I am going to play in the PGA Junior League this summer.

At the Golf Channel I get to meet new people and play many games. One of the amazing people I met was Mr. Damon Hack. He is on the Morning Drive show and was very nice to me. Damon has been playing golf for 25 years and his favorite golfer growing up was Tiger Woods.

He loves working at Golf Channel.

“It gives me the opportunity to talk and write about the sport that I love. It’s a sport that I can play with my boys. It’s a sport that I can watch on television. It’s a sport that teaches great life lessons. I couldn’t ask for a better job,” Damon said to me.

(P.S. I will be better than Jordan Spieth.)

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Not the 'prettiest' 65, but Duval, Furyk will take it

By Ryan LavnerApril 26, 2018, 7:44 pm

AVONDALE, La. – Wearing a polo instead of a dress shirt, working with a caddie and not a producer, David Duval exited the scoring tent, walked toward the group of reporters waiting for him after their 65 and grumbled to teammate Jim Furyk, “The damn media.”

Duval was joking – we think – since he now is one of us on the dark side, a successful and respected TV analyst, after an injury-shortened career in which he battled Tiger Woods, rose to world No. 1, won a major and then experienced such a miserable slump that it drove him into an entirely new line of work.

Now 46, Duval doesn’t play much anymore, only 11 events in the past four years. His last made cut was in July 2015. Earlier this year, he teed it up at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, but only because he and his wife, Susie, enjoy the vibe there. Competitively, he knew he didn’t stand a chance. He had moved back to Colorado, worked two out of the three weeks, and then couldn’t practice the other week because the weather didn’t cooperate. Not surprisingly, he shot three consecutive rounds of 76 or worse.

And that could have been the extent of his season (save for his annual appearance at The Open), but he was drawn to the idea of the team format at the Zurich, to the idea of playing with Jim Furyk, with whom he’s been friends for the past 32 years, dating to their days in junior golf. So Duval reached out, asking the U.S. Ryder Cup captain if he wanted to team up, for old times’ sake.

“This was about being with a friend, reuniting, having our wives together for a few days,” said Duval, who estimated that he’s played more than 100 practice rounds with Furyk over the years. “Expectation-wise, I don’t know what they are for me. I don’t get to participate out here and compete.”


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But Duval took this start seriously. He almost never travels with his clubs, but he brought them to the Masters, working with his old coach, Puggy Blackmon, between TV appearances and bouncing between Augusta Country Club and Augusta University’s practice facility.

Without any on-camera work since then, he’s spent the past two weeks grinding, even bringing Blackmon to New Orleans for a range session, just like most of the other pros in the field.

“It’s like a normal preparation,” he said. “Maybe not as much as it would be for a typical player, but a lot more than I’ve been able to do in the past.”

Duval has no intentions of diving back into competitive golf full-time, but working as an analyst has given him a new perspective on the game he loves.

“When you don’t play a lot and you don’t have that opportunity, you feel like you have to play perfectly,” he said. “Being on the other side of the desk, you see how many crappy golf shots really, truly get hit, and it’s like, look, you don’t have to be perfect. You just have to hit more good ones than bad ones and go from there.”

That also sums up his and Furyk’s opening round here at the Zurich.

Furyk joked before the event that they’re the rustiest team in the field, but playing best ball, they remained steady in a driving rainstorm, then ran off seven birdies to shoot 65 and sit in the top 10 when they finished their round.

“It wasn’t necessarily the prettiest,” Duval said, “but it was solid. It wasn’t like we had 36 looks at birdie.”

“We ham-and-egged it really good today,” Furyk added. “We got pretty much one of the best scores we could have out of the round.”

The second round could be a different story, of course, with alternate shot. It’s a more nerve-wracking format – especially for two aging warriors without many competitive reps this year – and they figure to find some unusual parts of TPC Louisiana.

But that’s a worry for Friday, because Duval was in the mood to savor his four birdies, his team score of 65 and his ideal start to a work week with his longtime friend.

“I think it was good,” he said, breaking into a wry smile, “especially for me.”