Golf Talk Live - World Golf Village Special Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel DigitalNovember 20, 2000, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
WE HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR 5 YEARS TO GET JACK BURKE, JR. TO COME VISIT US AT THE GOLF CHANNEL. HE IS CAPTIVE HERE AT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS HE HAS AGREED TO BE WITH US TONIGHT. IT'S A
PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANKS PETER. NICE TO SEE YOU.

PETER KESSLER
OTHER THAN SUGGESTING THAT YOU WERE IN FLORIDA TO SORT OUT THE VOTING PROBLEM.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YEAH

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOUR FRIEND AND PARTNER AND GREAT PLAYER, JIMMY DEMARETT SAY ABOUT YOUR INDUCTION INTO THE WORLD GOLF HALL OF FAME TODAY?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, I'VE DONE THIS ONE OTHER TIME. JIMMY SAID, I HEAR THAT YOU'RE INDUCTED INTO THE HALL OF FAME. THIS WAS EARLY ON. WE HAD ONE THAT

DIDN'T QUIET MAKE IT AND THEN HE SAID, WHAT KIND OF SPEECH DO YOU WANT TO USE? I'VE GOT A LOT OF HALL OF FAME SPEECHES.

(KESSLER AND BURKE LAUGH)

PETER KESSLER
ALL OF THEM FUNNY AND ALL WITH SINGING, RIGHT?

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT. RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU TALKED DURING YOUR INDUCTION SPEECH ABOUT ALL OF THE GREAT UNSUNG TEACHER HEROES

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
THAT WE'VE HAD IN THIS GAME, INCLUDING YOUR DAD.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID FELLOWS, LIKE YOUR DAD, AND JACK GROUT AND, AND PEOPLE LIKE THAT AND PAUL RUNYAN

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT

PETER KESSLER
HOW DID THEY FIND THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOLF SWING THAT HAS STOOD UP FOR ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS NOW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THEY ALL HAD TO TEACH, MAKE A LIVING AND THEY WERE ALL UH, GREAT, YOU KNOW TEACHING, PETER, IS, IS A VERY PERSONAL THING. YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY KNOW THE PERSON AND FEEL

PAIN TO TEACH. YOU'VE GOT TO HOPE HE MAKES IT. THAT'S THE WAY YOU TEACH. YOU CAN'T PUT IMPLEMENTS AROUND AND, AND JACKETS ON AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO TEACH. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO RECEIVE THE PAIN.

THERE'S NO PAIN IN ME KICKING BALLS IN FRONT OF YOU. THERE'S PAIN IN ME HOPING THAT YOU MAKE IT AND WATCHING YOU MAKE IT AND, AND WATCHING YOU COMPETE AND TEACHING YOU HOW TO COMPETE AND, AND JUST TELL THE PEOPLE THE THINGS THAT YOU

GO THROUGH IN COMPETING. IT, HITTING A GOLF BALL, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT, ANYBODY CAN TEACH THAT. GOLF IS INSIDE OF YOU AND YOU HAVE TO BRING IT OUT SOMEHOW. EVERYBODY'S GOT A SWING OF SOME KIND. YOU JUST GOT TO FIND, FIND WHAT THE HELL HE CAN DO WITH IT. WHAT HE'S GOT, YOU KNOW, LITTLE GUYS, FAT GUYS, TALL GUYS.

PETER KESSLER
IN 1952, WHEN YOU HAD YOUR SWING AND PERHAPS AS GOOD AS IT EVER WAS, AND YOU WON FOUR TOURNAMENTS IN A ROW THAT YEAR, WHAT WAS THE TOUGHEST PART OF WINNING FOUR IN A ROW?

JACK BURKE, JR.
I WAS TRYING TO COUNT MY MONEY (LAUGHS) . WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, YOU KNOW WE WEREN'T PLAYING FOR ANY MONEY. I WON 4 IN A ROW AND YOU GOT TWO THOUSAND BUCKS A WEEK. THE TOUR WE WERE ON, WE WERE ALL TEACHERS, AND WE TAUGHT IN THE

EASTERN SEABOARD. WE'RE ALL KIDS FROM THE SOUTH. THERE WAS NO MONEY IN THE SOUTH. NO GOLF CLUBS IN THE SOUTH. NOBODY PLAYED GOLF. THEY, DRUG, DUG OIL WELLS SO

WE WERE ALL IN NEW YORK. HOGAN WAS UP THERE, BYRON NELSON WAS UP THERE, DEMARRET WAS UP THERE, LOYD MANGRUM, EVERYBODY HAD A CLUB. SAM STILL HAS CLUBS. HAUGE'S NEVER

HAD, HE'S A HUNDRED AND, HE HASN'T GIVEN THEM UP YET AND I HAVEN'T EITHER, BUT CLUBS WERE OUR LIVES AND THE AMATEUR PLAYER IS THE GUY THAT, THAT, THAT I HAVE THE REVERENCE FOR. I MEAN I HAVE, I MEAN A GUY THAT'S

A LAWYER AND IS A 3 HANDICAP, I'VE GOT TO HAND IT TO HIM, BECAUSE THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, PETER, A PRO AND AN AMATEUR IS WHO GETS TO PLAY

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, BECAUSE UH YOU KNOW, A BAD PLAYER, A GOOD PLAYER IS JUST A BAD PLAYER THAT DIDN'T QUIT. THAT'S ALL THERE IS. JUST DON'T QUIT, AND THAT'S WHAT THESE AMATEUR PLAYERS DO. DOCTORS AND LAWYERS THAT ARE ALL GREAT PLAYERS. I'M, I'M NOT IN TOO

MUCH SYMPATHY WITH THE GUY THAT JUST WANTS TO PLAY A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR, YOU KNOW, HE'S NOT GOING TO EVER GET IT, BUT YOU'VE GOT GUYS THAT HAVE GOT A LOT OF HOURS IN GOLF. I MEAN IT TAKES 5 HOURS TO PLAY GOLF AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE A 3 HANDICAPPER.

YOU CALCULATE THOSE WAGES UP FROM A LAWYER OR A DENTIST OR A DOCTOR. THAT'S A LOT, A LOT OF, HE'S GOT A LOT OF MONEY IN HIS GAME. A LOT.

PETER KESSLER
YOU ONCE SAID THAT LOSERS ARE RESULT ORIENTED AND WINNERS ARE EXECUTION ORIENTED.

JACK BURKE, JR.
RIGHT.

PETER KESSLER
EXPLAIN THAT FOR ME.

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, THE, THE, WHEN YOU GO, WHEN YOU GO OUT ON SUNDAY TO TRY AND PLAY, AND YOU GET ALL INVOLVED IN YOUR PRESENTATION SPEECH IF YOU WIN. WHAT AM I GOING TO DO IF I BECOME FAMOUS? ALL THAT GET IS A, IS A WAGON

YOU'RE PULLING AND YOU GET HURT WITH THAT, AND IF YOU CAN GO OUT AND JUST EXECUTE THE SHOTS THAT YOU KNOW, PLAY THE NOTES THAT YOU KNOW, SING THE SONG THAT YOU CAN SING. DON'T BE TRYING TO BE SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE NOT. YOU MIGHT SURVIVE THE DAY, BUT 5 HOURS IS A LONG TIME OUT THERE, TRYING TO WIN, BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF HEAT ON YOU AND YOU DON'T NEED THAT AT THAT TIME. YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD PUT THE FIRST BALL IN THE

FAIRWAY, THE VERY FIRST SHOT YOU HIT, THAT'S ALMOST WINNING. IF THAT DUDE GOES SIDEWAYS THOUGH, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LONG DAY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT WAS THE THING THAT YOU DISCOVERED ABOUT YOUR OWN GAME WHEN YOU WERE PLAYING YOUR BEST THAT MADE YOU FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE YOUR MAJOR KEY FOR YOUR GOLF SWING?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL THAT HAPPENED TO ME ONE TIME IN A MOTEL. I FOUND MY GOLF SWING. I WAS A, I WENT TO A CATHOLIC SCHOOL AND WE HAD A TEACHER THAT TAUGHT US, ONE DAY, ABOUT FIRST THINGS FIRST, AND IT WAS ABOUT THE POLITICS AND THE

WEDDINGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE FIRST THINGS FIRST COMES UP FROM AND I WAS SITTING THERE, I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY COMING. I WAS LEADING THE TOURNAMENT. I COULD FEEL AN EIGHTY

WAS GOING TO HIT ME AND I THOUGHT WELL, HOW IS THIS FATHER HIGGINS THING GOING TO HELP ME HERE TODAY WITH THIS FIRST THINGS FIRST. I SAID WELL THE FIRST THING YOU'VE GOT TO DO IS GET A TEE. TEE THE BALL UP. PUT THE FACE DOWN THERE AND JUST HOPE YOU CAN HIT A NINETY. THAT'S ALL YOU GOT

TO DO TODAY. I SHOT A SIXTY-SEVEN, AND GOT OUT BECAUSE I, I DIDN'T ANY MORE THINK BUT JUST THAT. IF YOU CAN TAKE A CLUB, SAY LOFT, AND HIT NINETY, YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY WELL. THE CROOKED BALLS GO THIS WAY AND THIS

WAY THEY DIDN'T HIT A NINETY. SO, WITH DRIVERS OR PUTTERS OR IRONS, IF YOU CAN CRACK THAT NINETY ON THE LINE THAT YOU'RE GOING ON, YOU CAN PLAY GOLF.

PETER KESSLER
HOW COULD YOU MAKE THE NINETY, THE ANGLE, WITHOUT BEING TOO CAREFUL DURING THE PROCESS?

JACK BURKE, JR.
WELL, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T YOU KNOW THAT'S THE ONE THING, THERE'S A CERTAIN RECKLESSNESS, PETER, TO GOLF. GOLF IS NOT A, IT IS A HIGH RISK GAME, AND IT, IT TAKES A PERSON THAT
HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RECKLESSNESS IN HIM TO BE GOOD.

NOW YOU CAN BE GOOD, AND, AND THEN HOLD ONTO ALL YOUR POCKET MONEY BUT IF YOU'RE REALLY GOING TO BE GOOD, YOU`VE GOT TO THROW IT OUT THERE AND, AND HAVE SOME RECKLESSNESS AND JUST HOPE THAT IT, IT, IT ISN'T TOO RECKLESS.

PETER KESSLER
JACK, IT'S BEEN A GREAT PLEASURE TO SPEND TIME WITH YOU.

JACK BURKE, JR.
THANK YOU

PETER KESSLER
AND I HOPE THAT WHEN I CALL YOU AND I ASK YOU TO COME TO ORLANDO WE CAN FIND A DATE TO DO THAT TOGETHER.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YES SIR, FINE.

PETER KESSLER
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

JACK BURKE, JR.
YOU BET

PETER KESSLER
GREAT PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU. WE'LL BE BACK WITH HALL OF FAMER, JUDY RANKIN, DON'T GO AWAY.
(BREAK)

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Lopez fires flawless 63 for lead in Arkansas

By Associated PressJune 23, 2018, 12:41 am

ROGERS, Ark. – Since its first year on the LPGA Tour in 2007, the crowds at the NW Arkansas Championship have belonged to Stacy Lewis.

Another former University of Arkansas star staked her claim as the hometown favorite Friday when Gaby Lopez shot a career-low 8-under 63 to take the first-round lead at Pinnacle Country Club.

Like Lewis, the two-time winner of the tournament, Lopez starred as a three-time All-American for the Razorbacks before joining the LPGA Tour in 2016. Despite flashes of potential, Lopez had yet to join Lewis among the ranks of the world's best - missing the cut in her last two tournaments and entering this week ranked 136th in the world.

For a day, at least, the Mexican standout felt right at home atop the leaderboard in her adopted home state.

''I feel like home,'' Lopez said. ''I feel so, so comfortable out here, because I feel that everyone and every single person out here is just rooting for us.''


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Moriya Jutanugarn was a stroke back along with Minjee Lee, Catriona Matthew, Nasa Hataoka, Lizette Salas, Mirim Lee and Aditi Ashok. Six others finished at 6 under on a day when only 26 of the 144 players finished over par, thanks to some mid-week rain that softened the greens and calm skies throughout the day.

Jutanugarn finished second at the tournament last year and is trying to win for the second time on the LPGA Tour this year. Her younger sister, Ariya, is already a two-time winner this year and shot an opening-round 66.

Lewis, the former world No. 1 who won the event in 2007 in 2014, finished with a 66. She's expecting her first child in early November

Defending champion So Yeon Ryu, coming off a victory Sunday in Michigan, shot a 67.

Friday was Lopez's long-awaited day to standout, though, much to the delight of the pro-Arkansas crowd.

After missing the cut her last two times out, Lopez took some time off and returned home to Mexico City to rest her mind and work on her game. The work paid off with two straight birdies to open her round and a 6-under 30 on her front nine.

Lopez needed only 25 putts and finished two shots off the course record of 61, and she overcame a poor drive on the par-5 18th to finish with a par and keep her place at the top of the leaderboard. Her previous low score was a 64 last year, and she matched her career best by finishing at 8 under.

''(Rest) is a key that no one really truly understands until you're out here,'' Lopez said. ''... Sometimes resting is actually the part you've got to work on.''

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Harman rides hot putter to Travelers lead

By Will GrayJune 23, 2018, 12:28 am

CROMWELL, Conn. – There are plenty of big names gathered for the Travelers Championship, and through two rounds they’re all chasing Brian Harman.

Harman opened with a 6-under 64, then carded a 66 during Friday’s morning wave to become the only player to finish the first two rounds in double digits under par. The southpaw is currently riding a hot putter, leading the field in strokes gained: putting while rolling in 12 birdies and an eagle through his first 36 holes.

“Putted great today,” said Harman, who ranks 22nd on Tour this season in putting. “Got out of position a couple of times, but I was able to get myself good looks at it. I started hitting the ball really well coming down the stretch and made a few birdies.”


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Harman, 31, has won twice on the PGA Tour, most recently at last year’s Wells Fargo Championship. While he doesn’t have a win this year, he started his season in the fall by reeling off five straight finishes of T-8 or better to quickly install himself as one of the leaders in the season-long points race.

Now topping a leaderboard that includes the likes of Jason Day, Bubba Watson and Rory McIlroy, he realizes that he’ll have his work cut out for him if he’s going to leave Connecticut with trophy No. 3.

“The putter has been really good so far, but I’ve been in position a lot. I’ve had a lot of good looks at it,” Harman said. “I’m just able to put a little pressure on the course right now, which is nice.”

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10-second rule costs Zach Johnson a stroke

By Will GrayJune 23, 2018, 12:06 am

CROMWELL, Conn. – Zach Johnson heads into the weekend one shot back at the Travelers Championship, but he was a matter of seconds away from being tied for the lead.

Johnson had an 18-foot birdie putt on No. 3 at TPC River Highlands, his 12th hole of the day, but left the ball hanging on the lip. As Johnson walked up to tap the ball in, it oscillated on the edge and eventually fell in without being hit.

Was it a birdie, or a par?

According to the Rules of Golf, and much to Johnson’s chagrin, the answer was a par. Players are afforded “reasonable” time to walk to the hole, and after that they are allowed to wait for 10 seconds to see if the ball drops of its own accord. After that, it either becomes holed by a player’s stroke, or falls in and leads to a one-shot penalty, resulting in the same score as if the player had hit it.

According to Mark Russell, PGA Tour vice president of rules and competitions, Johnson’s wait time until the ball fell in was between 16 and 18 seconds.


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“Once he putts the ball, he’s got a reasonable amount of time to reach the hole,” Russell said. “Then once he reaches the hole, he’s got 10 seconds. After 10 seconds, the ball is deemed to be at rest.”

Johnson tried to emphasize the fact that the ball was oscillating as he stood over it, and even asked rules officials if marking his ball on the edge of the hole would have yielded a “bonus 10 seconds.” But after signing for a 2-under 68 that brought him within a shot of leader Brian Harman, the veteran took the ruling in stride.

“The 10-second rule has always been there. Vague to some degree,” Johnson said. “The bottom line is I went to tap it in after 10 seconds and the ball was moving. At that point, even if the ball is moving, it’s deemed to be at rest because it’s on the lip. Don’t ask me why, but that’s just the way it is.”

While Johnson brushed off any thoughts of the golf gods conspiring against him on the lip, he was beaming with pride about an unconventional par he made on No. 17 en route to a bogey-free round. Johnson sailed his tee shot well right into the water, but after consulting his options he decided to drop on the far side of the hazard near the 16th tee box.

His subsequent approach from 234 yards rolled to within 8 feet, and he calmly drained the putt for an unexpected save.

“I got a great lie. Just opened up a 4-hybrid, and it started over the grandstands and drew in there,” Johnson said. “That’s as good of an up-and-down as I’ve witnessed, or performed.”

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Travelers becoming marquee event for star players

By Will GrayJune 22, 2018, 11:29 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Get lost in the throngs following the defending champ, or caught up amongst the crowds chasing the back-to-back U.S. Open winner, and it’s easy to forget where this tournament was a little more than a decade ago.

The Travelers Championship was without a sponsor, without a worthwhile field, without a consistent date and on the verge of being jettisoned to the PGA Tour Champions schedule. The glory days of the old Greater Hartford Open had come and gone, and the PGA Tour’s ever-increasing machine appeared poised to leave little old Cromwell in its wake.

The civic pride is booming in this neck of the woods. Main Street is lined with one small business after the next, and this time of year there are signs and posters popping up on every corner congratulating a member of the most recent graduating class at Cromwell High School, which sits less than two miles from the first tee at TPC River Highlands.

Having made it through a harrowing time in the event’s history, the local residents now have plenty of reason to take pride.

The Tour’s best have found this little New England hamlet, where tournament officials roll out the red carpet in every direction. They embrace the opportunity to decompress after the mind-numbing gauntlet the USGA set out for them last week, and they relish a return to a course where well-struck shots, more often than not, lead to birdies.


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Ten years ago, this tournament was also held the week after the U.S. Open. Stewart Cink won, and for his efforts he received a paltry 36 world ranking points. But thanks to a recent influx of star-power, this week’s winner will pocket 58 points – the same amount Rory McIlroy won at Bay Hill, and two more than Justin Rose got at Colonial. Now at the halfway point, the leaderboard backs up the hefty allocation.

While Brian Harman leads at 10 under, the chase pack is strong enough to strike fear in the heart of even the most seasoned veteran: McIlroy, Bubba Watson and Zach Johnson, they of the combined eight major titles, all sit within three shots of the lead. Former world No. 1 Jason Day is one shot further back, and reigning Player of the Year Justin Thomas will start the third round inside the top 20.

Paul Casey and Bryson DeChambeau, both likely participants at the Ryder Cup this fall, are right there as well at 8 under. Casey lost a playoff here to Watson in 2015 and has come back every year since, witnessing first-hand the tournament’s growth in scope.

“It speaks volumes for what Travelers have done and how they treat everybody, and the work that Andy Bessette and his team put in to fly around the country and speak highly of this event,” Casey said. “And do things which matter, to continue to improve the event, not just for players but for spectators.”

Part of the increased field strength can be attributed to the Tour’s recent rule change, requiring players who play fewer than 25 events in a season to add a new event they haven’t played in the last four years. Another portion can be attributed to the short commute from Shinnecock Hills to TPC River Highlands, a three-hour drive and even shorter across the Long Island Sound – an added bonus the event will lose two of the next three years with West Coast U.S. Opens.

But there’s no denying the widespread appeal of an event named the Tour’s tournament of the year, players’ choice and most fan-friendly in 2017. While Spieth’s return to defend his title was assumed, both Day and McIlroy are back for another crack this year after liking what they saw.

“Anyone that I talked to could only say good things about the tournament about the golf course, how the guys are treated here, how the fans come out, and how the community always gets behind this event,” McIlroy said. “Obviously I witnessed that for the first time last year, and I really enjoyed it.”

After starting the week with all four reigning major champs and five of the top 10 players in the latest world rankings, only Masters champ Patrick Reed got sent packing following rounds of 72-67. The remaining top-flight contingent will all hit the ground running in search of more low scores Saturday, with Spieth (-4) still retaining a glimmer of hope to keep his title defense chances alive, perhaps with a 63 like he fired in the opening round.

The Tour’s schedule represents a zero-sum game. Outside of the majors and WGCs that essentially become must-play events for the game’s best, the rest of the legs of the weekly circus become victim of a 12-month version of tug-of-war. Some players like to play in the spring; others load up in the fall. Many play the week before majors, while a select group block off the week after for some R&R far away from a golf course.

But in an environment where one tournament’s ebbs can create flows for another, the Travelers has continued a steady climb up the Tour’s hierarchy. Once in jeopardy of relegation, it has found its footing and appears in the process of turning several of the Tour’s one-name stars into regular participants.

Rory. Jordan. Bubba. JT.

It’s been a long battle for tournament officials, but the proof is in the pudding. And this weekend, the reward for the people of Cromwell – population 14,000 – looks to be a star-studded show.

“All the events are incredible,” Thomas said. “But this is kind of one of those underrated ones that I think until people come and play, do they realize how great it is.”