Golf Talk Live - Charles Howell III Transcript Segment 2

By Golf Channel NewsroomAugust 6, 2001, 4:00 pm
RICH LERNER
WELCOME BACK WITH CHARLES HOWELL THE THIRD. CHARLIE, WE TALKED ABOUT AUGUSTA NATIONAL, WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE HOLE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
NUMBER 13, BY FAR.

RICH LERNER
WHY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN THERE. I MEAN SO MANY TOURNAMENTS HAVE BEEN DECIDED ON THAT HOLE AND YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S NOT THE LAST HOLE OF THE TOURNAMENT BUT GRANTED IT'S AN EXCITING HOLE.

RICH LERNER
HOW OLD WERE YOU WHEN YOU FIRST PLAYED AUGUSTA NATIONAL?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I WAS TEN YEARS OLD. FIRST TIME I PLAYED.

RICH LERNER
WHAT DID YOU SHOOT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
79

RICH LERNER
79

CHARLES HOWELL III
BUT THAT WASN'T FROM THE BACK TEES I WILL TELL YOU THAT BUT 79.

RICH LERNER
AND THEN, SUBSEQUENT TO THAT YOU PLAYED IT AT WHAT AGE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I PLAYED IT QUITE A LOT BETWEEN THAT TIME WHEN I WAS 16 AND 17. I OWE THAT TO A LOT OF THE, THE MEMBERS THAT TOOK ME OUT THERE AND THE EMPLOYEES THAT TOOK ME ON AN EMPLOYEE DAY AFTER THE TOURNAMENT BUT YEAH

RICH LERNER
A PRETTY SPECIAL PLACE, ISN'T IT?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH IT'S UNBELIEVABLE.

RICH LERNER
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE LENGTHENING OF THE NATIONAL?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IT'S, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE PRETTY STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT THAT AND I, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AUGUSTA NATIONAL AND I, I HATE SEEING ANY CHANGES BEING MADE. I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T PARTICULARLY LIKE THE ROUGH COMING UP THERE.

I, AND, YOU KNOW IT'S, IT'S A PLACE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOREVER AND YOU KNOW I UNDERSTAND YOU NEED TO LENGTHEN THE GOLF COURSE. I UNDERSTAND THAT TECHNOLOGY IS CHANGING AND THE GOLF BALL'S GOING

FURTHER BUT AT THE SAME TIME THERE'S A PART OF ME THAT WANTS TO SEE IT LEFT ALONE AND IF PEOPLE SHOOT 20 UNDER OR 30 UNDER OR WHATEVER, SO LET THEM SHOOT IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S UH, BUT IT'S THE SAME FOREVER.

RICH LERNER
LENGTH WILL PLAY INTO YOUR HANDS. YOU'RE ONE OF THE LONGEST HITTERS OUT THERE.

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
IN, IN EFFECT ARE THEY SHORTENING THE FIELD? ARE THEY NOT MAKING IT SUCH THAT FEWER PLAYERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIN

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
IF THE GOLF COURSE IS STRETCHED OUT.

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL I THINK SO AND, I, YOU KNOW IF, IF THEY ARE TRYING TO TIGER PROOF THE GOLF COURSE OR IF PEOPLE SAY IT'S A, IT'S A TIGER PROOFING, IT'S MORE OF A LONG HITTER ADVANTAGE TYPE OF DEAL. IT'S, YOU KNOW IF, IF A BUNKER IS 207 YARDS TO CARRY AND YOU MOVE A TEE

BACK TO WHERE IT'S 290 YARDS TO CARRY, I CAN STILL KNOCK IT OVER IT WHERE, BUT YOU JUST KNOCKED 20 GUYS THAT CAN'T KNOCK IT OVER. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK A LOT OF TIMES NOW YOU LENGTHEN THE GOLF COURSE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE.

RICH LERNER
WERE YOU LONG RIGHT AWAY? WERE YOU LONG AT 10 YEARS OLD? DID YOU JUST KNOW HOW TO GENERATE CLUBHEAD SPEED OR IS THAT SOMETHING YOU DEVELOPED AND, AND LEARNED?

CHARLES HOWELL III
I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING MORE I DEVELOPED AND LEARNED. WHEN I WAS 14 YEARS OLD MY DAD AND I SAT DOWN AND WE KIND OF DECIDED THAT IF I WAS GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE AT THIS GAME

I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO HIT IT FURTHER AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED WORKING OUT. THAT'S WHEN MY WORKOUT REGIMENT STARTED AND YOU KNOW I WASN'T A BIG GUY. I'M STILL NOT NOW, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHEN IT DID START AND WORKED ON IT SINCE THEN.

RICH LERNER
YOU'RE WHAT 155 NOW?

CHARLES HOWELL III
155 NOW YES.

RICH LERNER
155 BUT YOU CAN BENCH PRESS HOW MUCH?

CHARLES HOWELL III
MY BENCH PRESS IS 225. ONE REV MAX.

RICH LERNER
THAT'S PRETTY STRONG.

CHARLES HOWELL III
(LAUGHS)

RICH LERNER
WELL LET'S GO BACK THEN TO THE EARLY DAYS WITH DAVID LEADBETTER. HOW DID YOU ARRIVE AT DAVID'S DOORSTEP?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IT'S, IT'S INTERESTING STORY. I, UH, MY DAD IS, I MENTIONED EARLIER IS A PEDIATRIC SURGEON AND HE WAS IN ORLANDO FOR A BOARD MEETING AND SO WE WERE DOWN THERE AND HE DECIDED

I'D GO GET A GOLF LESSON FROM DAVID LEADBETTER, SO HE CALLED UP TO THE ACADEMY WANTING TO KNOW IF DAVID WOULD WORK WITH ME AND THEY SAID WELL DAVID'S NOT AVAILABLE, ONE OF HIS ASSISTANTS IS.

SO I, IT WAS SIMON HOMES, WHO'S NO LONGER TEACHING WITH DAVID BUT HE WORKED WITH ME AND STARTED ON FROM THERE.

RICH LERNER
AT, AT WHAT POINT DID YOU COME UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF DAVID?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD. I STARTED TO, I MOVED ON, I WORKED WITH SIMON HOMES FOR A WHILE AND THEN WILL NEAL AND THEN STARTED WITH DAVE WHEN I WAS 12.

RICH LERNER
AND AT AGE 12 WHAT WAS THE PROGRAM?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW AT AGE 12 IT WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF HARD WORK, A LOT OF PRACTICE, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW A LOT OF THE MORE, ENGRAINING THE DISCIPLINE IN ME. IT

WAS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF SHORT GAME PRACTICE. IT WAS MORE, YOU KNOW, DAVID WAS TRYING TO PUT HARD WORK INTO ME, NOT SO MUCH MECHANICS.

RICH LERNER
OKAY, SO HE, HE SAW YOU HOW OFTEN?

RICH LERNER
ONCE EVERY TWO MONTHS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
ABOUT ONCE A MONTH. ABOUT ONCE A MONTH WE DROVE DOWN, YEAH.

RICH LERNER
YOU WOULD DRIVE FROM AUGUSTA, GEORGIA

CHARLES HOWELL III
FROM AUGUSTA, RIGHT.

RICH LERNER
DOWN TO ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH WE MADE THIS TRIP A LOT.

RICH LERNER
OKAY AND YOU WOULD SPEND, WHAT, A FEW DAYS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WE'D SPEND A WEEKEND OR I MIGHT SKIP SCHOOL ON A FRIDAY. NO MY TEACHERS KNOW USUALLY I GET GOLF LESSONS I WASN'T SICK. NO WE, WE'D SKIP SCHOOL OR EVEN GO TO SCHOOL ON FRIDAY AND COME DOWN FOR THE WEEKEND.

RICH LERNER
AT WHAT POINT DID YOU BEGIN TO WORK ON SWING THEORY AND TECHNIQUE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UM, WHEN I WAS AROUND FOURTEEN. WHEN I HAD AN IDEA OF WHAT I WAS DOING, AN IDEA OF WHAT MY QUOTE UN QUOTE MODEL SWING WAS TO LOOK LIKE. WE STARTED WORKING ON THAT.

RICH LERNER
IS IT COMPLEX?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH

RICH LERNER
NOT YOUR SWING IN PARTICULAR, BUT, BUT DAVID'S METHODOLOGY? ARE THERE CHECK POINTS ALONG THE WAY?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW THEY'RE CHECK POINTS. I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S COMPLEX, I'D SAY DAVID PROBABLY GETS A BAD WRAP IF PEOPLE SAY HE'S OVER TECHNICAL OR IF HE IS A, YOU KNOW, A TOUGH INSTRUCTOR

BUT, AND THAT ALSO CAN BE BECAUSE I KNOW HIM SO WELL. HE'S LIKE A SECOND FATHER TO ME SO TO SPEAK.

RICH LERNER
AND WHEN DID HE BEGIN TO HARNESS THE POWER THAT YOU NOW SHOW? AT WHAT AGE?

CHARLES HOWELL III
UM, WE STARTED WORKING ON THAT WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE. MY FRESHMAN AND SOPHOMORE YEARS. I THINK DAVID HAS SEEN ME TRY TO HIT ENOUGH WEDGES FROM 170 YARDS, ENOUGH 8 IRONS 180 YARDS (LAUGHS).

RICH LERNER
WERE, WERE THERE PSYCHOLOGISTS EARLY ON? SPORTS PSYCHOLOGISTS?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW HERE AND THERE. I'VE SEEN A COUPLE HERE AND THERE BUT NOTHING, NOTHING STEADY. I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN ONE TO SAY AS SOON AS I SWING PERFECT, HIT EVERY SHOT PERFECT AND DON'T SHOOT UNDER PAR THEN I'LL GO SEE A SPORT'S PSYCHOLOGIST.

RICH LERNER
ALRIGHT. THE WORK OUT REGIMENT

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT

RICH LERNER
WHAT DOES IT CONSIST OF?

CHARLES HOWELL III
WELL IN THE EARLY DAYS WHEN I WAS SAY, 14, UNTIL I STARTED COLLEGE IT WAS LIGHT WEIGHTS WITH A LOT OF REPETITION. IT WAS A LOT OF CARDIO WORK ON THE EXERCISE BIKE, ON THE TREADMILL AND WHEN I ENTERED COLLEGE I STARTED LIFTING HEAVY. MY ROOMMATE, ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS,

STILL TODAY, BOYD SUMMERHADE (?) AND I LIVED TOGETHER AND WE, WE PUSHED EACH OTHER QUITE A LOT TO LIFT HEAVY.

RICH LERNER
BRUCE'S SON.

CHARLES HOWELL III
UH, GRANT'S SON OR ACTUALLY NO BRUCE IS HIS UNCLE SO THEN, YEAH.

RICH LERNER
BRUCE IS, OKAY

CHARLES HOWELL III
RIGHT YES, BUT NO WE PUSHED EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO COULD LIFT THE MOST AND YOU KNOW WE PULLED SOME MUSCLES AND TORE SOME TENDONS.

RICH LERNER
DID THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS AT OKLAHOMA STATE THINK YOU'RE CRAZY? I MEAN THIS IS A, A YOU KNOW

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH WELL YEAH

RICH LERNER
A STRING BEAN GOLFER HERE. WHO'S HE TRYING TO KID?

CHARLES HOWELL III
OH YEAH, NO, THEY, THEY LOOKED AT US AND WERE MEAN (?). BOYD (?) WAS A LOT BIGGER THAN I WAS BUT NO THEY LOOKED AT ME AND LAUGHED AND NO R.W. MCCORDER'S, HE PLAYS IN THE NFL NOW,

HE, HE'D LOVE TO LOOK AT US AND LAUGH AT US AND YEAH

RICH LERNER
AND NOW A DAYS WHAT DOES THE WORKOUT REGIMEN CONSIST OF?

CHARLES HOWELL III
YOU KNOW NOW A DAYS WE TRAVEL A LOT MORE THAN WE DID IN COLLEGE AND SO NOW I'M BACK MORE TO LIGHT WEIGHTS WITH A LOT OF REPETITION. I TRY TO GO INTO THE GYM THREE TO, THREE TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK AND LIGHT WEIGHTS AND

STILL MAINTAIN THE CARDIO. I MEAN YOU KNOW I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR GOLF. YOU CAN'T GET TIRED.

RICH LERNER
ALRIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT SWING AND HOW HE'S ABLE TO GENERATE SUCH PRODIGIOUS DISTANCES OFF THE TEE. DAVID LEADBETTER WILL ALSO VISIT WITH US. ROCKY HAMBRIC HIS AGENT'S GOING TO BE ALONG AS WELL.

AS WE HEAD TO BREAK CHECK OUT SOME OF THE NOTEWORTHY ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE CAREER OF CHARLES HOWELL THE THIRD. WE'LL BE BACK WITH MORE IN JUST A MOMENT.

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- 1996 AJGA NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE
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- FINISHED -23 AT 2000 NCAA CHAMPIONSHIPS TO BREAK INDIVIDUAL RECORD HELD BY JOHN INMAN, JUSTIN LEONARD, JAMES MCLEAN AND PHIL MICKELSON.
- BROKE SERGIO GARCIA'S BUY.COM TOUR RECORD FOR THE BEST FINISH BY AN AMATEUR WITH 2ND PLACE FINISH AT 2000 GREENSBORO OPEN.

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Links to the past: Tiger's return revives Open memories

By Rex HoggardJuly 17, 2018, 12:51 pm

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Tiger Woods rekindles his love affair with links golf this week at Carnoustie, which seems about right considering his introduction to the ancient ways of the game began here on the Angus coast.

It was here on the most brutal of the Open Championship rota courses that a 19-year-old Tiger first played links golf at the 1995 Scottish Open, an eye-opening and enlightening experience.

“I remember my dad on the range with me, saying, ‘Are you ever going to hit the ball past the 100 yard sign?’” Woods recalled on Tuesday at Carnoustie, his first start at The Open since 2015. “I said, ‘No, I'm just enjoying this. Are you kidding me? This is the best.’”

During this most recent comeback, Tiger has been all smiles. A new, relaxed version of his former self made calm and approachable by age and the somber influence of injury. But this week has been different.

During a practice round with Justin Thomas on Monday he laughed his way all the way around the brown and bouncy seaside layout. Much of that had to do with his return to the unique ways of links golf, the creative left side of his brain taking the wheel from the normally measured right side for one glorious week.

He talked of game plans and strategic advantages on a parched pitch that has seen drives rolling out over 400 yards. At his core, Tiger is a golf nerd for all the right reasons and this kind of cerebral test brings out the best of that off-the-charts golf IQ.


Full-field tee times from the 147th Open Championship

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Although there are no shortages of defining moments in Tiger’s career and one can make all sorts of arguments for what would be his seminal moment – from the 1997 Masters to the 2008 U.S. Open –the 2006 Open Championship at Royal Liverpool stands out, based on near-perfect execution.

In ’06 at Liverpool, which played to a similar shade of dusty yellow as Carnoustie will this week, Tiger hit just a single driver, opting instead for a steady diet of long irons off tees. For the week he hit 48 of 56 fairways, 58 of 72 greens and rolled the field for a two-stroke victory and his third, and most recent, claret jug.

This Open has all the makings of a similar tactical tour de force. For this championship he’s put a new 2-iron into play that’s more like a strong 1-iron (17 degrees) and imagines, given the conditions, a similar low, running menu.

“It could be that way,” Woods said when asked the similarities between this week’s conditions and the ’06 championship. “I'm not going to hit that many long clubs off the tees, just because I hit a 3-iron on Monday, down 18, I went 333 [yards]. It can get quick out here.”

If Tiger ever needed a major championship confidence boost the Carnoustie Open would be it, an inspiring walk down memory lane to a time when he was the undisputed king of golf.

“[The ’06 Open] is the closest you can compare to this,” David Duval said. “But I struggle to remember that golf course being as fast as this one. It was close, but this one is something else.”

Ernie Els had a slightly different take, albeit one that was no less ominous to the rest of the field this week.

“Liverpool is on a sand hill, this has a bit more run to it,” Els said. “But it’s got the same feel. It’s almost like St. Andrews was in 2000. Very, very fast.”

It’s worth noting that Tiger also won that ’00 Open at the Home of Golf with an even more dominant performance. It is the unique challenges of the links test that make many, even Tiger, consider the Open Championship his best chance to continue his pursuit of Jack Nicklaus’ record of 18 majors.

More than any other Grand Slam gathering, The Open is blind to age and the notion of players competing past their prime. In 2008 at Royal Birkdale, then-53-year-old Greg Norman flirted with the lead until the very end, finishing tied for third; a year later at Turnberry, Tom Watson came within one hole of history at 59 years young.

“It certainly can be done,” Woods said. “You get to places like Augusta National, where it's just a big ballpark, and the golf course outgrows you, unfortunately. That's just the way it goes. But links-style golf courses, you can roll the ball. Even if I get a little bit older, I can still chase some wood or long club down there and hit the ball the same distance.”

Whether this is the week Tiger gets back into the Grand Slam game depends on his ability to replicate those performances from years past on a similarly springy course. As he exited the media center bound for the practice putting green on Tuesday he seemed renewed by the cool sea breeze and the unique challenges of playing the game’s oldest championship.

Coming back to Carnoustie is more than a reintroduction to links golf; for Tiger it’s starting to feel like a bona fide restart to his major career.

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Woods: New putter should help on slower greens

By Ryan LavnerJuly 17, 2018, 11:35 am

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Tiger Woods’ ice-cold putting showed at least a few signs of heating up earlier this month at The National, where he switched putters and ranked seventh in the field on the greens.

The mallet-style putter is still in the bag as Woods prepares for The Open, and he’s hoping the heavier model with grooves will prove valuable at Carnoustie.


Full-field tee times from the 147th Open Championship

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“To be honest with you, I’ve struggled on slower greens throughout my entire career,” Woods said Tuesday. “So for me, it’s going to help on these greens, for sure.”

To combat the slower greens, Woods usually applied a strip of lead tape to his putter. But this heavier model of putter doesn’t need the extra weight, and the grooves on the putter face allow the ball to get rolling faster and hotter.

“You don’t necessarily have to do that with the grooves,” he said of the lead tape. “When I putted with the Nike putter, I didn’t have to put lead tape on the putter to get a little more weight to it. I could just leave it just the way it was. This is the same type.”  

For all of the talk about his putting woes this season, Woods still ranks 56th in strokes gained: putting. More crucial this week: He’s 102nd in approach putt performance, which quantifies how well a player lag putts.

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Woods: Open best chance for long-term major success

By Ryan LavnerJuly 17, 2018, 11:26 am

CARNOUSTIE, Scotland – Tiger Woods is more than a decade removed from his last major title, but he said Tuesday that The Open is the major that gives him the best chance for long-term success.

“I would say yes, because of the fact that you don’t have to be long to play on a links-style golf course,” Woods said during his pre-tournament news conference. “It certainly can be done.”


Full-field tee times from the 147th Open Championship

Full coverage of the 147th Open Championship


Woods pointed to the late-career success for both Greg Norman (2008) and Tom Watson (2009), both of whom challenged for the claret jug deep into their 50s.

“Distance becomes a moot point on a links-style golf course,” he said.

That’s certainly not the case, however, at the Masters, where bombers long have thrived, or the U.S. Open, which places a premium on long and straight driving.

“You get to places like Augusta National, which is just a big ballpark, and the golf course outgrows you, unfortunately,” he said. “But links-style courses, you can roll the ball. I hit a 3-iron that went down there 330. Even if I get a little bit older, I can still chase some wood or long club down there and hit the ball the same distance.”

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"Vantage Point with Mike Tirico" set to debut Tuesday, July 17 at 9 p.m. ET on Golf Channel

By Golf Channel Public RelationsJuly 17, 2018, 10:15 am

Special Hour Complementing the Network’s Week-Long Golf Central Live From The Open News Coverage; Premiere Scheduled to Include Interview with 2014 Open Runner-Up Rickie Fowler On-Site from Carnoustie

Features Include Tirico and Curtis Strange Re-watching ’99 Open at Carnoustie & Jim “Bones” Mackay Facilitating Exclusive Conversation with Caddies Michael Greller, John Wood Recounting Final Round Pairing at 2017 Open

To help set the table ahead of The 147TH Open at Carnoustie, Golf Channel will premiere Vantage Point with Mike Tirico on Tuesday, July 17 at 9 p.m. ET. An extension of the network’s week-long Golf Central Live From The Open comprehensive news coverage, Vantage Point will revisit landmark moments in The Open’s history, uncover personal stories relevant to the fabric of the week and feature a roundtable discussion with past “Champion Golfers of the Year” on golf’s original championship.

“It’s a thrill to be going back to The Open again this year, which is a fitting setting to launch this new opportunity,” said Tirico, NBC Sports host who this week will celebrate his 22nd consecutive year covering The Open. “I love being a part of the Golf Channel team during golf’s biggest weeks, and anticipate contributing to our commitment to great storytelling with Vantage Point.”

Kicking off the premiere of Vantage Point will be Tirico’s exclusive interview with 2014 Open runner-up and 2015 PLAYERS champion Rickie Fowler on-site from Carnoustie. One of Fowler’s favorite events, he has missed just one cut in eight previous appearances at The Open. Other highlights within the show include:

  • Jim “Bones” Mackay facilitating an exclusive conversation between caddies Michael Greller (Jordan Spieth) and John Wood (Matt Kuchar) recounting the final round pairing at The Open last July.
  • Tirico hosting a roundtable discussion with past “Champion Golfers of the Year”: David Duval, Tom Lehman and Justin Leonard.
  • A recollection of one of the most unforgettable collapses in major championship golf, when Jean van de Velde surrendered a three-shot lead on the 72nd hole in 1999 at The Open. Tirico and Curtis Strange – both on the live tournament broadcast that year for ABC/ESPN – recently re-watched the telecast together for the first time since calling it live.

 

“This is harder to watch than I thought it was going to be. I’ve never seen anything like

that in my life. I don’t think we’ll ever see anything like that again.” – Curtis Strange

 

“I think I got caught up in the whole deal and felt human for the guy.” – Mike Tirico

 

Vantage Point with Mike Tirico will complement the network’s Golf Central Live From The Open, which will feature nearly 60 hours of comprehensive news coverage from Carnoustie. In total, NBC Sports will dedicate more than 350 hours to showcasing the third men’s major championship of the year, including nearly 50 live hours of the network’s Emmy-nominated tournament coverage – annually the most live hours of coverage from any golf event – spanning from Thursday’s opening tee shot to Sunday’s final putt.