Golf Talk Live - Chi Chi Rodriguez Transcript Segment 3

By Golf Channel DigitalNovember 6, 2000, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
WHY DON'T WE CHECK IN WITH 12 YEAR OLD STEPHEN, HE'S CALLING FROM NORTH CAROLINA. HOW ARE YOU STEPHEN?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
PRETTY GOOD.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT'S GOING ON?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH.. NOTHING MUCH.

PETER KESSLER
OKAY. SAY HI TO CHI CHI.

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
HEY. HEY CHI CHI.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
HI STEPHEN. HOW ARE YOU?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
PRETTY GOOD. HOW ABOUT YOU?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
GOOD. YOU MUST BE A LITTLE COLD OUT THERE IN NORTH CAROLINA, HUH?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
YUP.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL GET YOUR DADDY OUT THERE TO GO AND VOTE FOR GEORGE BUSH.

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
YEAH HE IS.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
THAT A BOY. WHAT CAN I DO FOR YOU KID?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU WHY YOU ACTED THE WAY YOU DID AFTER YOU MADE ANY PUTTS AND IF YOU DID THAT TO MAKE THE AUDIENCE LAUGH OR SOMETHING?

PETER KESSLER
HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW YOU GOT YOUR ROUTINE AFTER YOU MAKE PUTTS. THE HAT, THE SWORD DANCE? WHY DO YOU ACT THE WAY YOU DO, I THINK. RIGHT STEPHEN?

STEPHEN FROM NORTH CAROLINA
UH HUH

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
20:WELL, STEPHEN TO START WITH, SEE GOLF IS SHOW BUSINESS. WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE ON THE GOLF COURSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON STAGE, AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GIVE PEOPLE A SHOW.

YOU KNOW IT AMAZES ME THAT THE, THAT THE YOUNG GUYS, AND OF COURSE THEY'RE PLAYING FOR SO MUCH MONEY AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE THE BEST BEHAVED ATHLETES THERE IS RIGHT NOW, THE GOLFERS. I'M VERY PROUD THAT, TO SEE THOSE GUYS MAKING THE KIND OF MONEY THEY DO AND BEHAVE THE WAY THEY DO, BUT THEY DON'T LOOK AT PEOPLE, AND A LOT OF THEM ARE GOING TO PSYCHOLOGISTS TO, WELL SOME OF THE PSYCHOLOGISTS, THEY NEED YOU MORE THAN YOU NEED THEM. YOU KNOW, BEN HOGAN NEVER, NEVER GAVE HIS BRAIN TO NO PSYCHOLOGIST OR NELSON OR SNEAD OR NICKLAUS OR, OR ARNIE, SO I HAVE, I WAS MY OWN, MY OWN GUY, YOU KNOW AND I WANTED TO BE DIFFERENT. I WANTED TO SEE PEOPLE SMILE. PEOPLE LAUGH, SO, WHEN I FIRST CAME TO THE UNITED STATES I USED TO PUT MY HAT OVER THE HOLE BECAUSE, ONE TIME I WAS PLAYING A KID FOR FIVE CENTS AND I MADE A PUTT FROM 20 FEET AND THERE WAS A TOAD IN THE HOLE AND THE TOAD HOPPED OUT AND THERE CAME MY BALL AND THE OTHER KID SAYS, WELL IT'S NO GOOD UNLESS THEY HIT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOLE, WHICH IS THE RULE. THAT'S, THAT'S THE TRUTH, SO AFTER THAT I STARTED PUTTING MY HAT OVER THE HOLE, WELL SOME OF THE PROS COMPLAINED THAT I WAS UH DAMAGING THE HOLE. OF COURSE I DIDN'T KNOW, THE GUYS LIKE ARNIE AND JACK, THEY WERE TOO BIG TO COMPLAIN ABOUT IT, ABOUT ME BUT, THE COMMISSIONER OF GOLF, JOE DYE ASKED ME IF I COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING ELSE, SO I SAID WELL IF IT'S GOOD ENOUGH WITH YOU JOE, IT'S GOOD ENOUGH WITH ME, SO I WENT HOME, AND I THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND I SAID WELL, WITH US SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE, THE, THE BIGGEST SPORT IS BULL FIGHTING. I DON'T LIKE BULL FIGHTING BECAUSE THEY, THEY MAKE THE BULL SUFFER, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY GIVE THE BEEF TO THE POOR, AFTER, AFTER THEY DO AWAY WITH THE BULL. SO I THOUGHT THE BULL WAS THE, THE HOLE AND I STOPPED THE BULL AND THEN I TAKE THE SWORD AND I DRY IT OUT WHICH IS THE PUTTER AND I PUT IT BACK IN THE SCAVER, YOU KNOW, BUT IN REAL LIFE, I, I'M LIKE ANTHONY PERKINS. I WOULDN'T HURT A FLY.

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
I REALLY WOULDN'T HURT A FLY.

PETER KESSLER
YOU MENTIONED SNEAD AND HOGAN AND NELSON, AND OF THOSE THREE, SNEAD WAS REALLY YOUR IDOL. HOW COME?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, THEY WERE ALL MY IDOLS, BUT SAM SNEAD NEVER HAD WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD DUE COMING. SAM SNEAD WAS THE BEST PLAYER I EVER SAW IN MY LIFE AND, AND, AND AS YOU CAN SEE I SAW YESTERDAY ON THE GOLF CHANNEL. I WAS WATCHING THE GOLF CHANNEL AND THEY, THEY GAVE THE STATS OF TIGER WOODS BREAKING BYRON NELSON'S RECORD. WELL, WHAT WAS INTERESTING ABOUT THAT IS THAT ONLY 5 PEOPLE HAVE BROKEN 70 FOR A YEAR, AND SAM SNEAD IS TWO OUT OF THOSE 5 PEOPLE, AND SAM, SAM WON 11 TOURNAMENTS ONE YEAR, AND HOGAN WON ONE TOURNAMENT AND THEY MADE HOGAN THE PLAYER OF THE YEAR.

PETER KESSLER
WELL HOGAN WON THE OPEN AND SNEAD WON 11 OTHERS AND HOGAN ONLY PLAYED IN A COUPLE OF EVENTS THAT YEAR. THAT WAS THE YEAR AFTER HIS ACCIDENT 1950.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
RIGHT, BUT SAM, I THINK SAM, IF, IF IF WE PLAYED WITH THE EQUIPMENT THAT WE PLAY WITH NOW, I THINK SAM SNEAD WOULD SHOOT IN THE 50'S EVERY WEEK, BECAUSE HE HIT THE BALL SO FAR, YOU KNOW, SAM SNEAD USED TO CARRY
THOSE, THOSE BALLS THERE WITH A WOODEN CLUB 280 YARDS IN THE AIR, AND STRAIGHT. HE'D NEVER MISS A FAIRWAY.

PETER KESSLER
WHAT DO YOU THINK THE REASON IS THAT HE DIDN'T WIN AT LEAST ONE U.S. OPEN? HE SAID IF HE HAD SHOT 69 IN THE FINAL ROUND OF EVERY OPEN HE WOULD HAVE WON TEN OR ELEVEN OF THEM.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. IN THE OLD DAYS YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MEASURED TOURN.. . OF COURSE, THE, THE WAY THEY HAVE MEASURED TOURNAMENTS, PETER, YOU KNOW, SURE THE OPEN WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE. THEN THE MASTERS WAS SECOND. THE WESTERN WAS THE THIRD BIGGEST TOURNAMENT.

PETER KESSLER
IN THE 30'S YEAH.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
IT WAS BIGGER THAN THE PGA. IT WAS BIGGER THAN THE BRITISH OPEN. AFTER I WON IT
(LAUGHS)

PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
IT WENT DOWN HILL.

PETER KESSLER
WELL SURE.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
(LAUGHS)

I MEAN I SHOT THE RECORD. YOU KNOW, I SHOT 19 UNDER IN THAT, IN THAT TOURNAMENT UH UH I SHOT NO 20 UNDER. I SHOT 268 I THINK IT WAS AT THE (20:28:09???) AND AFTER THAT IT WENT DOWN HILL, BUT I, YEAH, I THINK THAT SAM SNEAD, HAD HE WON ONE HE WOULD HAVE MAYBE WON TEN OF THEM.

PETER KESSLER
HOW PROUD WERE YOU TO HAVE BEEN SELECTED FOR THE 1973 RYDER CUP TEAM?

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
WELL, PETER I QUALIFIED IN 1964, AND LET ME TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED. THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO PLAY. THEY SAID THAT I WAS NOT A BORN AMERICAN. OR NOT BORN ON AMERICAN SOIL, BUT I HAD SPENT TWO YEARS IN THE ARMY, YOU KNOW, I VOLUNTEERED TO FIGHT IN KOREA BECAUSE ALL MY BUDDIES GOT KILLED IN KOREA, SO I WAS PLAYING WITH SENATOR FULLBRIGHT WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE, SO HE USED TO COME TO THE RATTLE (??) AND WE SAT DOWN AND HAD LUNCH AFTER WE PLAYED AND UH HE SAID HOW IS LIFE TREATING YOU? I SAID, WELL, YOU, I CAN'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT I QUALIFIED FOR THE RYDER CUP TEAM AND THEY DIDN'T ALLOW ME TO PLAY IN IT. THEY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO ALLOW ME TO PLAY IN IT AND HE LOOKED AT ME, HE SAYS, IF YOU DON'T WANT RYDER CUP MATCHES TO BE, TO BE PLAYED THIS YEAR, HE SAID LET ME KNOW. I'LL INTRODUCE A LAW IN THE SENATE THAT WILL CANCEL THE MATCHES, AND I TOLD HIM, NO SIR, IF THEY DON'T WANT ME, I WON'T PLAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, BUT IN 1963 I WAS ELECTED TO THE, TO THE RYDER CUP TEAM AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT WE WON.

PETER KESSLER
CHI CHI WHEN WE COME BACK FROM THIS BREAK, WHY DON'T YOU HELP US ALL WITH OUR GOLF GAMES. WE'LL WONDER OVER TO OUR ACADEMY LIVE SET AND MAYBE YOU'LL TAKE US THROUGH WHAT YOU CALL THE 6 BASICS OF THE GOLF SWING. LET'S DO THAT IN JUST A MINUTE. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

CHI CHI RODRIGUEZ
ABSOLUTELY.

(MUSIC)

(BREAK)
 
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Twice winner Kizzire on missing U.S. Open: 'Fuel to my fire'

By Will GrayJune 19, 2018, 5:59 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Based on recent form, there likely wasn’t a more decorated player watching last week’s U.S. Open from home than Patton Kizzire.

Kizzire is in the midst of a breakthrough season that has already included two wins: a maiden victory at the OHL Classic at Mayakoba in November, and a marathon playoff triumph over James Hahn at the Sony Open in January. While those titles got him into the Masters and the PGA Championship, they didn’t mean an exemption to Shinnecock Hills.

Kizzire got as high as 51st in the world rankings after his win in Honolulu, but his game started to turn shortly thereafter. A T-12 finish at the WGC-Mexico Championship is his lone top-25 finish in 12 starts since his Sony victory, and he missed four straight cuts from the Masters to The Players Championship.


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The U.S. Open grants exemptions to the top 60 in the world at two different cutoff points close to the tournament. But in the midst of a cold streak, Kizzire was 63rd and 65th at each of those deadlines. He attempted to earn a spot at sectional qualifying in Columbus, only to find that his score of 5 under was one shot too many.

“I guess just adding a little fuel to my fire, adding insult to injury,” Kizzire said. “Just to have narrowly missed several different ways of qualification was disappointing. But I just tried to spin it as a positive. I got two weeks off, and I did watch those guys struggle a little bit. I wasn’t struggling at home, we’ll just say that.”

Kizzire hopes to put the disappointment behind him this week at the Travelers Championship, where he finished T-53 a year ago. And while his pair of trophies didn’t get him a tee time last week – or guarantee him a berth in The Open next month – they put him in prime position to make the season-ending Tour Championship, which would mean spots in the first three majors of 2019.

The combination of two recent wins and a ranking outside the top 60 isn’t one that comes up often on Tour, but Kizzire maintains a balanced perspective as he looks to get back to playing the kind of golf that will ensure he doesn’t miss any more majors in the near future.

“If I would have played better in between the U.S. Open and my last win, I would have gotten in. So my play was the reason I wasn’t in,” Kizzire said. “You certainly could look at it and say, ‘This guy’s got two wins, he should be in.’ But I’m not making too much of it.”

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Masters, Players and U.S. Open champs grouped at Travelers

By Will GrayJune 19, 2018, 5:50 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Fresh off a second straight U.S. Open victory, Brooks Koepka is getting right back to work at the Travelers Championship.

Koepka has stood by his commitment to tee it up at TPC River Highlands, becoming the first U.S. Open champ to play the following week on the PGA Tour since Justin Rose played the Travelers after his 2013 win at Merion. Koepka will play the first two rounds alongside Masters champ Patrick Reed and Webb Simpson, who captured The Players Championship last month.

Here’s a look at some of the other marquee, early-round groupings for a star-studded field outside Hartford (all times ET):

7:50 a.m. Thursday, 12:50 p.m. Friday: Jason Day, Xander Schauffele, Daniel Berger

Day is making his second straight Travelers appearance, having missed the cut both last year in Cromwell and last week at Shinnecock Hills. He’ll be joined by reigning Rookie of the Year Schauffele and Berger, who took home ROY honors in 2015 and last year was on the losing end of Jordan Spieth’s playoff dramatics at this event.


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8 a.m. Thursday, 1 p.m. Friday: Brooks Koepka, Patrick Reed, Webb Simpson

Koepka is making his third tournament appearance overall, but his first since a T-9 finish in 2016, before he had either of his two U.S. Open trophies. Reed has become a regular at this event and enters off a fourth-place showing on Long Island, while Simpson cruised to victory last month at TPC Sawgrass and tied for 10th last week.


12:50 p.m. Thursday, 7:50 a.m. Friday: Jordan Spieth, Marc Leishman, Russell Knox

This was the tournament that turned things around last year for Spieth, who took home the title in his debut thanks to one of the most dramatic shots of the year in a playoff against Berger. He’ll start his title defense alongside a pair of past champs, as Leishman won here for his first Tour title back in 2012 and Knox was a winner two years ago when the tournament was played in August.


1 p.m. Thursday, 8 a.m. Friday: Bubba Watson, Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas

This group should get plenty of attention in the early rounds, with Thomas entering as the highest-ranked player in the field at No. 2 and joined a pair of players who will launch drives all across TPC River Highlands. Watson has feasted on this layout, winning in both 2010 and 2015 among five top-10 finishes, while McIlroy tied for 17th last year in his tournament debut but missed the cut last week at Shinnecock.

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Travelers Championship: Tee times, TV schedule, stats

By Golf Channel DigitalJune 19, 2018, 5:30 pm

There will be plenty of star power this week in Hartford as the PGA Tour moves north for the Travelers Championship. Here is the key info for this week's event.

How to watch:

Thursday, Rd. 1: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream

Friday, Rd. 2: Golf Channel, 3:30-6:30PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream

Saturday, Rd. 3: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.

Sunday, Rd. 4: Golf Channel, 1-2:45PM ET; live stream: https://www.golfchannel.com/pgastream; CBS, 3-6 p.m.


Purse: $7 million

Course: TPC River Highlands (par 70, 6,841 yards)

Defending champion: Jordan Spieth. Defeated Daniel Berger with a birdie on the first playoff hole.


Notables in the field

Jordan Spieth

• Missed last two cuts (the Memorial, U.S. Open) entering this week

• 188th on PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting (4th in strokes gained: tee to green)

• Only player to win Travelers Championship back-to-back: Phil Mickelson (2001-02)


Brooks Koepka

• Making third career start in Travelers Championship (last start: T-9 in 2016)

• First player to play Travelers week after U.S. Open win since 2013 (Justin Rose)

• First player to win U.S. Open back-to-back since 1988-89 (Curtis Strange)


Justin Thomas

• Fifth career start in this event (MC, T-3, MC last three years)

• Second on PGA Tour this season in strokes gained: tee to green (+1.49)


Rory McIlroy

• Second career start in Travelers Championship (T-17 last year)

• Missed cut last week at U.S. Open (shot 80 in opening round)


Jason Day

• Fourth career start in Travelers Championship (best finish: T-18 in 2014)

• Leads PGA Tour in strokes gained: putting this season


Patrick Reed

• Earned second-most world ranking points of any player in 2018

• Finished fourth at U.S. Open last week (three shots behind Koepka)

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Day 'disappointed' in USGA's handling of course, Phil

By Will GrayJune 19, 2018, 5:16 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Jason Day had the weekend off following a missed cut at the U.S. Open, but that didn’t prevent the Aussie from keeping an eye on all the drama that unfolded at Shinnecock Hills.

The former world No. 1 found it “disappointing,” – with “it” being both the deterioration of a major championship setup and the fallout from Phil Mickelson’s putter slap during the third round.

Day is hoping to bounce back from an early exit at this week’s Travelers Championship, but before turning his attention to TPC River Highlands he shared that the brunt of his disappointment stemmed from the USGA’s inability to keep Shinnecock playable during the third round and their subsequent decision to water it down for the tournament’s conclusion.

“It’s more the course, about how they set it up. Because Saturday was a total, it was like two different golf courses, practically, on the greens Saturday versus Sunday,” Day said. “I just wish they would leave it alone and just let it go. Not saying to let the greens go and let them dry out and make it unfair, I’m just saying plan accordingly and hopefully whatever the score finishes, it finishes, whether it’s under par or over par.”


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But Day’s frustration also tied back to Mickelson’s head-turning decision to hit a moving ball on the 13th green during the third round, and the USGA’s subsequent ruling that the actions merited a two-shot penalty but not a disqualification.

“It’s obviously disappointing to see what Phil did,” he said. “I think a lot of people have mixed reviews about what he did.”

USGA officials explained over the weekend that Mickelson’s actions explicitly fell under Rule 14-5, which called for a two-shot addition and turned his score of 8 into a 10, rather than Rule 1-2 or Rule 33-7 that could have resulted in disqualification for a “serious breach” of the rules.

Day felt it was unfortunate that all of Saturday’s drama deflected attention from a world-class performance from Brooks Koepka en route to a successful title defense, but when it comes to the handling of the Mickelson controversy he believes the USGA could have made good use of a mulligan.

“It’s just unfortunate that it happened at the USGA’s tournament, where they enforce the rules, like the R&A. And I think they may have, they probably should have enforced a different outcome for Phil,” Day said. “But it is what it is. It’s done. It’s just disappointing that that is overshadowing the winner of the whole week. I think if they had it back again, they may have chosen a different outcome.”