Golf Talk Live Transcript - Arnold Palmer - January 8 2001 - Part 3

By Golf Channel DigitalJanuary 17, 2001, 5:00 pm
PETER KESSLER
YOU KNOW, EARLIER, LAST YEAR, APRIL, MAY, YOU, YOU HONORED ME BY ASKING ME IF I WOULD AGREE TO GIVE TO BARBARA NICKLAUS THE FIRST ANNUAL WINNIE PALMER AWARD CREATED BY THE
 
METROPOLITAN GOLF WRITERS ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA AND I WAS HONORED AND I WANT YOU TO JUST SEE A COUPLE OF MOMENTS OF BARBARA'S ACCEPTANCE SPEECH IF YOU WOULD. LET'S CHECK THAT OUT PLEASE.
 
I AM HONORED TO PRESENT THE WINNIE PALMER AWARD TO BARBARA NICKLAUS.
 
BARBARA NICKLAUS
SO MAY PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME TO COMMENT ON WINNIE AND ALL I CAN SAY IS SHE WAS THE BEST. SHE HANDLED HER LIFE, SHE HANDLED ARNIE'S LIFE AND SHE HANDLED THEIR LIFE TOGETHER BETTER THAN ANYONE I KNOW. SHE WAS SO PROUD OF HER TWO GIRLS, AND THERE
 
WERE NO TWO DEARER, NICER GIRLS THAN PEG AND AMY, SO FOR ME TO RECEIVE THE WINNIE PALMER AWARD, AND TO SOMEHOW BE RECOGNIZED IN THAT SAME CATEGORY IS VERY SPECIAL TO ME AND A
 
REAL HIGHLIGHT. WINNIE WAS MY ROLE MODEL, MY MENTOR, AND MOST OF ALL MY FRIEND. IF SHE WERE HERE TONIGHT, I'D LIKE TO SAY THESE WORDS TO HER, WHAT MADE US GOOD FRIENDS YOU AND I, I THINK I KNOW THE REASON WHY. THE BEST IN ME AND THE BEST IN YOU WERE BROUGHT TOGETHER BECAUSE GOD KNEW
 
THAT ALWAYS AND ALWAYS SINCE TIME BEGAN OUR BEING FRIENDS WAS PART OF GOD'S PLAN. I'VE SPOKEN WITH ARNOLD SEVERAL TIMES AND AS PETER TOLD YOU HE WAS STRUGGLING EMOTIONALLY
 
WHETHER HE COULD BE HERE TONIGHT, TONIGHT OR NOT, AND I THINK HE WAS JUST OVERWHELMED AT THE FACT OF SPEAKING ABOUT WINNIE SO SOON SO I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND AND I HOPE YOU DO TOO.
 
PETER KESSLER
AND OF COURSE, THIS COMING JUNE YOU AND JACK AND GARY, THE BIG THREE, ARE BEING GIVEN THE GOLDEN ANNIVERSARY AWARD BY THAT SAME ASSOCIATION. I HOPE I'M THERE TO GIVE YOU THAT.
 
I WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THE WINNIE PALMER AWARD WAS FOR ARNOLD. IT'S, THE MET GOLF WRITERS ESTABLISHED THE WINNIE PALMER AWARD TO HONOR AN INDIVIDUAL IN GOLF, MAN OR WOMAN, WHO HAS CONSISTENTLY GIVEN THEIR TIME, ENERGY AND ENTHUSIASM TO THOSE LESS FORTUNATE. HOW DID YOU REACT TO ALL OF THAT?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
OH I DON'T KNOW, PETER, YOU KNOW, I'VE. KEEP GOING. I GUESS THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTED ME TO DO AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING AND CERTAINLY THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT I COULD TALK ABOUT. THAT. I'M NOT SURE THAT SHE WOULD WANT ME TO DO THAT, AND, AND, AND I
 
THINK THAT AS SHE SAID TO ME AT THE TIME, SHE SAYS GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE, AND SHE MEANT IT, AND YOU HEARD BARBARA AND, AND I THINK BARBARA IS FANTASTIC AND I THINK THAT SHE AND
 
JACK HAVE HAD A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE A LIFE THAT IS PRETTY SPECIAL AND. WINNIE LIKED BARBARA BECAUSE OF THAT AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY SHE REACTED TO THINGS THAT WEREN'T ALWAYS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING, WE HAD, YOU JUST DON'T GO THROUGH YOUR LIFE WITHOUT SOME
 
THINGS JUMPING TRACK SOMETIMES, AND, AND WINNIE AND BARBARA NEVER HAD A PROBLEM. THEY, THEY SMOOTHED OVER THE ROUGHEST EDGES AND AS YOU KNOW, JACK AND I ARE PRETTY GOOD FRIENDS AND WE HAVE BEEN GOOD FRIENDS AND
 
HE'S, HE HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND I THINK ABOUT THE OTHER NIGHT, WE WERE DOING A LITTLE THING IN FLORIDA, IN MIAMI AS A MATTER OF FACT AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT TIGER WAS THERE AND JACK AND MYSELF AND I WON'T GET INTO WHY WE WERE THERE
 
BUT, I, I GOT SUCH A KICK OUT OF JACK. HE SAID THAT, WE WERE, WALKED IN THE ROOM AND TIGER WAS STANDING THERE WITH BLOND HAIR AND JACK SAID JESUS TIGER, HE SAYS YOU TRYING TO BEAT ALL
 
MY RECORDS, NOW YOU'RE TYING TO LOOK LIKE ME. WHICH, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE LOOSE SIDE OF IT AND THAT'S THE FUN SIDE OF IT AND TIGER TOOK IT GREAT. HE WAS, HE WAS VERY GOOD AND, AND YOU KNOW, ALL
 
THE THINGS THAT WE CAN THINK ABOUT THAT ARE NOT HAPPENING THE WAY WE THINK THEY SHOULD BUT HERE THE THREE OF US WHO WOULD BE COMPETITIVE UNDER ANY SITUATION YOU COULD EVER FIND AND WE LIKE EACH OTHER AND WE GET ALONG PRETTY WELL, BUT DON'T PUT US ON A GOLF COURSE TOGETHER BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT AS HARD AS WE CAN FIGHT TO BEAT THE OTHER ONE.
 
PETER KESSLER
DO YOU FIND YOURSELF DREAMING ABOUT WINNIE? DOES THAT HAPPEN TO YOU?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
SURE, I THINK THAT YOU CAN'T LIVE WITH SOMEONE FOR 45 YEARS AND NOT THINK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT SHE DID AND THE THINGS THAT SHE MEANT TO ME AND, AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS EVER A NON-CONFORMING CLUB, SHE WOULD HAVE HAD A SOLUTION.
 
SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SAY, OH ARNIE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, IT'LL, IT'LL HANDLE ITSELF AND THAT'S, SHE WOULD HAVE, AND SHE, AND, AND IF IT MEANT THAT I WAS GOING TO GET INTO
 
AN ARGUMENT ABOUT IT SHE'D HAVE SAID HEY, YOU PLAY IT RIGHT AND DON'T WORRY. IT'LL BE ALRIGHT.
 
PETER KESSLER
WHAT KIND OF ADJUSTMENTS HAVE YOU HAD TO MAKE TO, TO HAVE LIFE BE AS SETTLED AND AS GOOD AS IT CAN BE?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE THERE AND SHE'S GOING TO BE PRESENT, WHATEVER I DO, BUT YOU KNOW, I'M DATING NOW PETER, AND, AND, AND I'M ENJOYING IT AND IT'S DIFFERENT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU JUST, YOU EXPECT CERTAIN THINGS TO HAPPEN AND IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE THEY'LL HAPPEN,
 
BUT THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THE FACT THAT SHE WILL BE AN INFLUENCE ON ME UNTIL. UNTIL I JOIN HER AND THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN HAVE AND KEEP AND, AND, AND I FEEL VERY GOOD ABOUT THAT. CERTAINLY, WHEN, WHEN WE GET INTO THESE THINGS WHERE THERE'S A QUESTION, SHE WAS ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL.
 
PETER KESSLER
SHE MADE LIFE A HEAVEN ON EARTH DIDN'T SHE? IN TERMS OF LETTING YOU MOVE AND DO AND, AND BE WHO YOU NEEDED TO BE AND SHE GAVE YOU THE ROOM TO DO THAT, DIDN'T SHE?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
YOU, YES, AND, AND, AND THAT WAS A GOOD THING. I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE ONTO ANOTHER SUBJECT PETER. I'M, I'M, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THAT ONE BECAUSE I CAN'T TELL YOU EVERYTHING THAT'S IN MY FEELINGS ABOUT WINNIE AND UH.I, I, I'D RATHER TALK ABOUT ANOTHER SUBJECT NOW.
 
PETER KESSLER
WE'LL TALK ABOUT JACK AS SOON AS WE COME BACK. STAY WITH US.
 
(BREAK)
 
PETER KESSLER
ARNOLD, HERE'S A QUESTION THAT SOMEBODY SUBMITTED ON OUR WEBSITE FOR YOU AND IT'S PLEASE TELL ME ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE OF WORKING WITH JACK NICKLAUS ON DESIGNING AND BUILDING THE RECENTLY OPENED `THE KING AND THE BEAR ` COURSE AT THE WORLD GOLF VILLAGE IN ST. AUGUSTINE, FLORIDA. BOB WREN WANTS TO KNOW ALL ABOUT IT AND HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW IT GOT CALLED THE KING AND THE BEAR INSTEAD OF THE BEAR AND THE KIND I'M SURE.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
WELL IT REALLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED THE ELVIS AND YOGI.
 
PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)
 
ARNOLD PALMER
BUT, THEY, THEY CALLED IT THE KING AND THE BEAR, BUT ACTUALLY, WORKING WITH JACK WAS FUN. WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE OUR OWN STYLES AND WE BOTH KNOW THAT, BUT, I SUPPOSE THE BOTTOM
LINE IS THAT IT CAME TOGETHER VERY
 
NICELY AND, AND I'M PLEASED AND I THINK JACK IS, AND I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOLF COURSE THAT IS SECOND TO NONE. IT'S A GOOD GOLF COURSE. IT'S ONE THAT, OVER THE YEARS WILL REALLY REACH GREAT ACCLAIM AND, AND IT WILL, IT
 
WILL WITHSTAND TIME OVER THOSE YEARS. IT'S, IT'S A GOLF COURSE THAT CAN BE MADE EXTREMELY FUN TO PLAY OR IT CAN BE MADE PRETTY DAG GONE DIFFICULT TO PLAY AND, AND THE PIN PLACEMENTS AND THE THINGS AND, AND
 
WHEN WE WERE DOING IT IT WAS FUN TOO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTS HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS OF GOING ABOUT DOING GOLF COURSES. I'M, MY GANG AND OF COURSE, I'M SURE JACK WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT HIS CREW, ARE A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE. ED SEEH AND, AND MY GUYS, HARRISON AND ERIC AND, AND MY CREW THAT, THAT I WORK WITH
 
BUILDING GOLF COURSES ARE TOP OF THE LITTER TO ME. THEY ARE JUST VERY GOOD, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAD A VERY UNFORTUNATE THING HAPPEN IN THE PROCESS OF BUILDING THIS GOLF
 
COURSE BECAUSE OF THE GUYS THAT WERE WITH PAYNE WHEN THE AIRPLANE WENT DOWN AND, AND THAT, THAT WAS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST BUMP IN THE WHOLE THING. JACK AND I GOT ALONG VERY WELL EXCEPT THAT HE'S ALWAYS
 
LATE SHOWING UP BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE PROCEDURES, THE GOLF COURSE, AND WE PLAYED IT AND, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TEST, AND I THINK THAT WE BOTH
 
UNDERSTOOD AND ENJOYED THAT IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT, AND AS I SAY, IT WILL STAND, IT WILL WITHSTAND THE TEST OF YEARS. IT'LL BE AROUND FOR A WHILE.
 
PETER KESSLER
 
PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THE TWO OF YOU WERE ALSO TRICK SHOT ARTISTS AND WE HAVE A PIECE OF TAPE TO PROVE THAT VERY POINT.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
 
OH YOU DIDN'T DO THE THING WHERE WE HIT THE GOLF BALLS IN MID AIR?
 
JACK NICKLAUS
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE DONE THIS FOR YEARS. NEVER MISSED, AND, WE, WE CROSSED THE BALLS TO START WITH, BUT TRY NOT TO HIT THEM TOGETHER AS THEY TAKE OFF. THEY GO OUT AND MINE SLICES BACK AND ARNOLD'S HOOK AND THEY HIT RIGHT IN MID AIR AND DROP.
 
GALLERY
(LAUGHING)
 
ARNOLD PALMER
RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING ABOUT?
 
(GALLERY LAUGHS AGAIN)
 
JACK NICKLAUS
OKAY
 
ARNOLD PALMER
ALRIGHT, YOU READY?
 
JACK NICKLAUS
YEAH, I'M READY.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
OKAY. I'M GOING TO HOOK IT ONTO THE FLAG AND YOU'RE GOING TO FADE IT ONTO THE FLAG. RIGHT?
 
JACK NICKLAUS
OKAY, LET ME KNOW.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
ONE. TWO. THREE
 
(SOUND OF CLUBS STRIKING BALL)
 
ARNOLD PALMER
WELL MINE HOOKED, WHERE'S YOUR FADE?
 
JACK NICKLAUS
HEY THERE IT GOES, IT DID IT, IT DID IT. IT DID IT AGAIN.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
MINE WENT IN THE HOLE.
 
JACK NICKLAUS
I SAW IT PERFECT, DIDN'T YOU?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
(LAUGHING)
 
JACK NICKLAUS
THAT'S THE WAY. DID YOU ALL SEE IT?
 
GALLERY
(CHEERING)
 
JACK NICKLAUS
SEE, THEY SAW IT TOO.
 
PETER KESSLER
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE THAT GOOD.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
OH WE HAVE A LOT OF FUN DOING THINGS LIKE THAT AND OF COURSE AS, YOU KNOW, IT USUALLY HITS, OCCASIONALLY WE MISS BUT NOT VERY OFTEN.
 
PETER KESSLER
WE'LL TAKE A BREAK, WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK. ARNOLD'S GOING TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE SECRETS OF THE GOLF SWING WHEN WE RETURN.
 
(BREAK)
 
PETER KESSLER
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DISCOVERY YOU EVER MADE ABOUT THE GOLF SWING?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
GENERALLY IT'S VERY UNPREDICTABLE.
 
PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHING QUIETLY)
 
ARNOLD PALMER
THE GOLF SWING IS, YOU KNOW, AS YOU GET TO MY STAGE IN THE GAME, AND I HAVE PLAYED A LOT OF YEARS, AND, AND I LOOK AT MY GOLF SWING AND I THINK OF ALL THE THINGS THAT MY FATHER TAUGHT ME AND WHEN I WAS LEARNING
 
AND, AND THE POWER OF HITTING THE GOLF BALL AND HOW YOU HIT IT AND WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT AND YOU KNOW, PETER, IT IS UNBELIEVABLE, THE GOLF SWING. I, I WENT OUT WITH MY GRANDSON THIS AFTERNOON, AND, AND OF COURSE IF YOU TALK ABOUT PRIDE AND THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING .
 
PETER KESSLER
WILLIAM?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
I'M SORRY.
 
PETER KESSLER
WAS IT WILLIAM THAT YOU WENT OUT WITH?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
SAM.
 
PETER KESSLER
EXCUSE ME, SAM.. SAM, HOW OLD IS SAM. 8 OR 9 NOW, RIGHT?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
HE'S 13.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
OH MY GOODNESS, SORRY.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
AND HE
 
PETER KESSLER
GETTING OLD.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
HE COULD GIVE YOU PROBABLY A SHOT A HOLE.
 
PETER KESSLER
WHO COULDN'T?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
AND UH. YOU DIDN'T NEED TO GET, NOW DON'T GET OVER GENEROUS NOW, BUT WATCHING THE GOLF SWING, AND, AND SAM JUST. YOU KNOW, I SAID TO HIM A LONG TIME AGO WHEN HE REALLY STARTED PLAYING GOLF, I SAID SAM,
 
COME ON, PUT YOUR HANDS ON THE GOLF CLUB AND I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BASIC FUNDAMENTALS OF THE GAME AND I WANT YOU TO JUST STICK WITH THEM,
 
AND PLAY THE GAME WITH THOSE BASIC FUNDAMENTALS AND, AND SAM DID PRETTY GOOD. HE DID, HE WENT RIGHT ALONG WITH IT AND HE, AND HE SWUNG THE CLUB GOOD BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN HE
 
HIT A BAD SHOT AND HE MAKES AN ADJUSTMENT, AND YOU KNOW, THIS IS EVERY GOLFER IN AMERICA TODAY. THEY HIT A SHOT AND IT DOESN'T WORK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY CHANGE AND THEY GO TO SOMETHING ELSE RATHER
 
THAN TRYING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED WITH, WITH THE THINGS THAT THEY REALLY KNEW, THEY CHANGED THINGS
AND, AND IN THIS CASE THIS IS A VERY GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT CAN HAPPEN, AND THIS BOY, MY GRANDSON, CAN HIT
 
THE GOLF BALL. HE IS, HE IS, HE'S GOT A GOOD MIND AND HE'S GOT A GOOD GOLF SWING, BUT HE WAS, HE WAS LETTING HIS HANDS GET A LITTLE BIT BACK AND THEN AS A RESULT OF THAT HIS LEFT HIP WAS,
 
NOT OPENING NECESSARILY, BUT THE, THE TENSION OR THE, THE STRESS ON THIS WAS MOVING TO THE RIGHT SIDE AND AS HE CAME INTO THE GOLF BALL, HE WAS COMING OVER IT AND THERE WAS NO PREDICTION ON WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO COME INSIDE OR OUTSIDE OR WHAT.
 
THEN I, I JUST SAID TO HIM, I SAID SAM, JUST TRY TO CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF FEEL IN THAT LEFT SIDE AND MOVE IT UP, DON'T CLOSE IT, BUT MOVE IT UP TO WHERE IT SHOULD BE, AND, AND PUT A LITTLE MORE WEIGHT ON THE LEFT SIDE,
 
AND THEN TAKE THE CLUB AND GO AHEAD AND HIT IT THROUGH AND, AND The FIRST COUPLE WERE A LITTLE IFFY, BUT THEN HE STARTED HITTING THE BALL REALLY GOOD AND, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT MAKES ME FEEL PRETTY DAG GONE GOOD TO SEE HIM HIT THE BALL THE WAY HE WAS HITTING IT THIS AFTERNOON,
 
BUT, YOU KNOW, PETER, I THINK WE'RE OVER INSTRUCTING IN THE GAME. I WATCH YOU, WITH WHAT YOU DO, HERE, ON THE, IN THE, ON THE VARIOUS GOLF INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAMS AND SO FORTH, AND IN, AND I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP THE GAME AS SIMPLE AS WE CAN, AND, AND STICK TO BASIC FUNDAMENTALS. NOW, I'M NOT
 
TRYING TO PUT JIM DEATON OUT OF BUSINESS OR ANY PGA PROFESSIONAL BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO TEACH THE BASIC FUNDAMENTALS OF THE GAME AND, AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO BUILD UP
 
A BIG THING ABOUT THE SWING. THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THE BASICS OF THE SWING AND THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO ADAPT IT TO YOUR PHYSICAL BEING, AND IF WE WOULD STICK WITH THAT AND, AND EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, GO BACK AND SEE OUR PRO, WHOEVER OUR INSTRUCTOR IS, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING THAT PROCEDURE, WE'D GET SOME PRETTY GOOD GOLFERS OUT THERE.
 
PETER KESSLER
STAY WITH ONE TEACHER.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
I THINK SO, YES.
 
PETER KESSLER
LET'S TAKE A, A CALLER FROM, A CALL FROM ONE OF OUR VIEWERS, JOYCE IN OHIO WHO'S BEEN WITH US BEFORE. HOW ARE YOU JOYCE?
 
JOYCE FROM OHIO
I'M GREAT. IT'S A GREAT HONOR TO TALK TO YOU MR. PALMER.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
THANK YOU.
 
JOYCE FROM OHIO
I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE EVOLUTION OF THE GOLF CHANNEL COMPARES WITH WHAT YOU ENVISIONED WHEN FIRST ESTABLISHING THE GOLF CHANNEL.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
WELL JOYCE I CAN TELL YOU THAT MY FRIEND AND, AND THE MAN WHO'S REALLY RUN THIS WHOLE THING FROM THE BEGINNING, JOE GIBBS, HAS DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND, AND WE ARE EVEN AHEAD OF WHERE WE THOUGHT WE
 
WOULD BE. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW TO DIRECT TV, FOR AN EXAMPLE, AND UH WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE 40 MILLION VIEWERS, MAYBE TONIGHT, WE HAVE 40 MILLION VIEWERS WATCHING THE GOLF CHANNEL. CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT?
 
SOME OF THEM (LAUGHS) DON'T EVEN PLAY GOLF, BUT THE FACT IS THAT THE GOLF CHANNEL HAS REALLY DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED HERE, PETER, AND, AND THE CREWS THAT I'VE WATCHED FOR THE LAST 7 YEARS HAVE REALLY DONE A FANTASTIC JOB.
 
PETER KESSLER
WE'LL CHECK IN WITH ERIC FROM MICHIGAN. GO AHEAD ERIC.
 
ERIC FROM MICHIGAN
HI MR. KESSLER. HOW ARE YOU?
 
PETER KESSLER
VERY WELL THANK YOU.
 
ERIC FROM MICHIGAN
HOW ARE YOU MR. PALMER?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
VERY WELL THANK YOU.
 
ERIC FROM MICHIGAN
PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOU.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
THANK YOU.
 
ERIC FROM MICHIGAN
YOU KNOW I, I WAS JUST WONDERING WHAT WAS YOUR MOST MEMORABLE MOMENT IN YOUR ENTIRE PGA TOUR CAREER?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
WELL I DON'T KNOW. I THINK THAT'S A TOUGH ONE, ERIC. I, I, I THINK THAT I'VE HAD PROBABLY 45 YEARS OF MEMORABLE MOMENTS AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MOST OF THEM. I, I GO BACK TO ONE LITTLE BEYOND THAT AND, AND I SAW A PICTURE
 
EARLIER HERE IN THE GOLF CHANNEL ABOUT THE NATIONAL AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP AND WHEN I WON THAT AND, AND OF COURSE IT JUST SEEMS FOR SOME REASON, ERIC, THAT IS THE ONE THAT ALWAYS POPS UP IN MY MIND.
 
PETER KESSLER
WE'LL TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK. WE'LL COME BACK AND JUST SPEND A FEW MORE MINUTES TOGETHER. AS WE LEAVE YOU, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF OUR WEBSITE THAT ARNOLD
 
ALLUDED TO A NUMBER OF TIMES THIS EVENING, AND IF YOU WOULD GO TO `WHAT'S ON' AND CLICK ONTO GOLF TALK LIVE YOU CAN WATCH THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM ON YOUR COMPUTER, VIDEO
 
STREAMING IT'S CALLED. YOU CAN E-MAIL US A QUESTION FOR A SHOW IN THE FUTURE AND YOU CAN READ A GOLF TALK LIVE TRANSCRIPT. WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AND SPEND A FEW MORE MINUTES WITH ARNOLD PALMER.
 
(BREAK)
 
PETER KESSLER:
YOU KNOW THEY SAY TIGER'S HAD A COUPLE OF GREAT YEARS BUT I REMEMBER '60, '61 WASN'T SO BAD FOR YOU ARNOLD. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PRETTY CLOSE ON THE WINS, PRETTY CLOSE ON THE MAJORS, PRETTY CLOSE ON THE TOP 10'S BUT, HOW ABOUT THE MONEY ARNOLD?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
(LAUGHS)
 
PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)
 
ARNOLD PALMER
OH MY GOODNESS. DID I WIN A136 MILLION? OH THAT WAS, THAT WASN'T 136 MILLION, RIGHT.
 
PETER KESSLER
YEAH THAT `K' STANDS FOR SOMETHING ELSE.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
(LAUGHS)
HEY, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT THAT, PETER. TIGER COULD HAVE WON 40 MILLION AND HE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD ANY MORE ENJOYMENT OR FEELING OF COMPETITION THAN I HAD WINNING A LOT LESS AND SURE, IT WOULD BE FUN, BUT IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY BETTER THAN, THAN WHAT IT WAS. I, I JUST REALLY ENJOYED IT.
 
PETER KESSLER
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE BEST 70 SOMETHING GOLFER IN THE WORLD?
 
ARNOLD PALMER
HEY I'M NOT SO SURE ABOUT THAT, MY FRIEND. THERE ARE SOME GUYS THAT I KNOW IN THEIR 70'S, MIDDLE LATE 70'S THAT CAN REALLY PLAY AND I'M JUST TRYING TO HANG ON SO THAT WHEN I GET A LITTLE OLDER I CAN PLAY AS GOOD AS THEY ARE AND, AND, YOU KNOW IT'S FUN.
 
I, I'M WORKING OUT AND DOING A LOT OF EXERCISING AND, AND ON MY LITTLE, YOU KNOW I DO MY LITTLE DIET PROGRAM AND TRY TO LOOSE A LITTLE WEIGHT, TRYING TO BUILD SOME MUSCLE AND I'M HAVING FUN DOING IT. YOU, YOU KNOW THE PRESSURE, I SUPPOSE THAT THE PRESSURE
 
THAT MADE IT WORK 30, 40 YEARS AGO ISN'T AS GREAT, BUT NOW THE PRESSURE IS ON GETTING MYSELF UP TO IT AND KEEP DOING IT AND ENJOYING IT AND, AND YOU KNOW I'VE NEVER FELT BETTER.
 
I, I MEAN REALLY. I, I'M OUT DRIVING SOME OF THESE GUYS AROUND HERE NOW AND YOU, YOU NEVER KNOW PETER, I MAY GO BACK ON TOUR.
 
PETER KESSLER
(LAUGHS)
YOU SPEND A LOT OF TIME WITH YOUR 7 GRANDCHILDREN NOW, DON'T YOU? MORE THAN EVER.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
YEAH AND THEY'RE WONDERFUL AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW THE, THE KIDS ARE GROWING UP. THE, THE THING THAT IS SO AMAZING ABOUT THE, THE GIRLS AND THE BOYS, THEY'RE GETTING BIGGER, MORE BEAUTIFUL AND IT SCARES ME A LITTLE
 
BUT I LOVE IT AND THEY REALLY ARE WONDERFUL KIDS. JESUS, THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOOD IN SCHOOL, THEY, THEY TAKE PART IN SOCIAL ACTIVITIES AND, AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT. THAT'S WHAT LIFE'S ALL ABOUT AND, AND MY CHILDREN, THEIR CHILDREN, WHO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT, IT'S PRETTY NICE AND LET ME JUST REMIND YOU ABOUT ONE THING. THE THING THAT WE HAVE BEEN
 
CONVERSING ABOUT THIS EVENING. I OWE IT TO GOLF. ALL OF THIS, MY CHILDREN, MY GRANDCHILDREN AND, AND I CAN NEVER THANK THE PUBLIC AND THE PEOPLE THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE AND,
 
AND I MEAN THAT AS SINCERELY AS I CAN SAY IT, THEY, IT, IT, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A LIFE, IT'S BEEN A DREAM AND, AND EVEN TO BE HERE WITH FRIEND JOE GIBBS, THE GOLF CHANNEL, ARGUING WITH YOU IS FUN. THE ONLY THING THAT I'M NOT TOO HAPPY ABOUT IS YOUR HITTING GOLF BALLS THROUGH MY WINDSHIELDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. I DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT TOO MUCH.
 
PETER KESSLER
STOP SENDING ME THE BILL.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
BUT, BOTTOM LINE, IT'S BEEN A GREAT LIFE AND, AND, AND IT, AND IF I'M FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE AROUND A FEW MORE YEARS, I JUST HOPE THAT I CAN ENJOY IT AS MUCH AS I'VE ENJOYED THE LAST 70.
 
PETER KESSLER
WELL YOU KNOW WE'VE DONE THIS 7 TIMES. I HOPE WE GET TO DO IT A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
THANKS PETER.
 
PETER KESSLER
IT'S BEEN A GREAT, GREAT PLEASURE. HAPPY HOLIDAY. NEW YEAR
 
ARNOLD PALMER
THANK YOU. THANKS.
 
PETER KESSLER
THANKS FOR TAKING OUT THE TIME.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
YOU TOO.
 
PETER KESSLER
IT'S BEEN SO MUCH FUN TO BE WITH YOU.
 
ARNOLD PALMER
VERY GOOD.
 
PETER KESSLER
THANKS ARNOLD. GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
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Bubba thinks he'll need a Sunday 60 to scare Casey

By Will GrayJune 23, 2018, 11:15 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Perhaps moreso than at most PGA Tour venues, a low score is never really out of reach at TPC River Highlands. Positioned as a welcome change of pace after the U.S. Open, the Travelers Championship offers a lush layout that often pushes the balance much closer to reward than risk.

This is where Jim Furyk shot a 58 on the par-70 layout two years ago – and he didn’t even win that week. So even though Paul Casey enters the final round with a commanding four-shot lead, there’s still plenty of hope for the chase pack that something special could be in store.

Count Bubba Watson among the group who still believe the title is up for grabs – even if it might require a Herculean effort, even by his standards.


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Watson has won the Travelers twice, including in a 2015 playoff over Casey. But starting the final round in a large tie for sixth at 10 under, six shots behind Casey, he estimates that he’ll need to flirt with golf’s magic number to give the Englishman something to worry about.

“My 7 under yesterday, I need to do better than that. I’m going to have to get to like 10 [under],” Watson said. “The only beauty is, getting out in front, you have a chance to put a number up and maybe scare them. But to scare them, you’re going to have to shoot 10 under at worst, where I’m at anyway.”

Watson started the third round three shots off the lead, and he made an early move with birdies on Nos. 1 and 2 en route to an outward 32. The southpaw couldn’t sustain that momentum, as bogeys on Nos. 16 and 17 turned a potential 65 into a relatively disappointing 67.

“Bad decision on the par-3, and then a very tough tee shot for me on 17, and it just creeped into the bunker,” Watson said. “Just, that’s golf. You have mistakes every once in a while.”

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Day (66) only star to shine Saturday at Travelers

By Will GrayJune 23, 2018, 11:01 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – With an early rain softening an already vulnerable course, there were plenty of birdies to be had during the third round of the Travelers Championship. They were few and far between, however, for some of the biggest names in the field.

On the same TPC River Highlands layout where Paul Casey took control of the tournament with an 8-under 62, the decorated quartet of Jordan Spieth, Rory McIlroy, Justin Thomas and Brooks Koepka combined to shoot 1 under with no single score better than a 1-under 69.

Spieth’s dim hopes of back-to-back titles were effectively ended with a 1-over 71, while McIlroy’s second straight 69 dropped him from three shots off the lead to outside the top 10.


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Thomas (70) and Koepka (69) are now 11 and 12 shots back, respectively.

Among the top-ranked contenders, the only player to make a modicum of a move was Jason Day, who shot a 4-under 66 and heads into the final round in a tie for sixth, six shots behind Casey. The Aussie made four birdies over his first nine holes, but he stalled out on the more gettable inward half.

“I’m happy with the way I’m playing right now. I played well today from tee to green,” Day said. “Tomorrow it all depends on how Paul plays.”

Day has won twice already this season, but facing a significant deficit against a seasoned veteran he realizes that a quick start will be necessary to retain any hopes for a third title.

“This course can yield some birdies, which is quite nice,” Day said. “Get through tomorrow in a couple under on the front side, and then try to let things go a little bit on the back side if you can.”

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Monkey off his back, Casey freed up to win again

By Will GrayJune 23, 2018, 10:49 pm

CROMWELL, Conn. – Paul Casey is flushing his irons, rolling in putts and no longer fielding questions about a lengthy victory drought. For the remaining players looking to chase him down at the Travelers Championship, it adds up to a terrifying combination.

The Englishman felt right at home on a gray and dreary afternoon at TPC River Highlands, vaulting to the top of the leaderboard with an 8-under 62. It was the lowest round of the week, two shots better than the next best effort Saturday, and it turned a two-shot deficit into a four-shot lead heading into the final round.

After enduring an afternoon logjam, with as many as five players sharing the lead at one point, the tournament is now Casey’s to lose – and he’s not shying away from the burden.

“You’d always rather have a lead,” Casey said. “When you’re behind, there is no room for error. No, I’m excited. I’ve got confidence in my game. I’ve got confidence with the man standing next to me (caddie John McLaren), confidence in the gameplan of how to get around this golf course.”

That approach is undoubtedly aided by the magic act Casey pulled off in March at the Valspar Championship. Teeing off well before the tournament leaders, he shot a final-round 65 and watched as the likes of Tiger Woods and Patrick Reed were unable to match his number.

Without having to field a single question about the weight of the burden he shouldered, about ending a PGA Tour victory drought that extended back to the 2009 Houston Open, Casey launched the monkey off his back and into the trees lining the 18th fairway at Innisbrook.

While Casey has won 13 times on the European Tour, including five times from 2009-14, his dry spell on this side of the Atlantic had become a point of discussion and one that wore on the affable veteran. But one sublime round in Tampa rendered it moot, and it will also grant him an extra sense of calm heading into the final round outside Hartford where only Russell Henley will start the day within five shots of his total.

“If I hadn’t won in a while, then yeah, there would be more pressure. I sit here right now with no nerves,” Casey said. “I’m sure there will be tomorrow, but no nerves now. I’m very happy with what I’ve done. In years past maybe that wouldn’t have been the case because there hadn’t been enough wins.”


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Granted, this is an event that often doesn’t follow the script. Birdies will be there for the taking on a course softened by light rains, and low scores shouldn’t be hard to find. This is, after all, where Jim Furyk shot a 58 two years ago and where Kevin Streelman ended his comeback victory in 2014 with a run of seven straight birdies.

Trailing by six, Bubba Watson floated the notion of needing a 60 to catch Casey without any hint that the score is out of reach. Jason Day, who like Watson trails by six at 10 under, quickly sniffed out Casey’s long-term track record like a shark seizing on a droplet of blood.

“Tomorrow it all depends on how Paul plays,” Day said. “I know that he in the past hasn’t quite got over the line with some of the wins that he possibly could have won, and that’s kind of a positive in my mind knowing that.”

But the look of calm confidence that emanates from Casey is that of a man who no longer has to answer questions about when The Win will come. His next victory will be just that, the next one. Another trophy to add to the decorated credentials of a player who has re-established himself in the game’s upper echelon over the past three years.

He’s back on a course he has thrived on from the very first time he set foot on the property, losing in a playoff to Watson in 2015 in his tournament debut. He has returned each year since, finishing T-17 and T-5.

His final-round 71 in 2016, carded the same day Furyk shot his 58, is proving more and more to be an aberration since each of his other 14 competitive rounds in Cromwell have ended up in the 60s. That includes three straight this week, capped by Saturday’s effort where he hit every green in regulation and tied his career low score on Tour.

Yes, the tournament is Casey’s to lose. But liberated by a recent win and playing some of his best golf at one of his favorite venues, there’s little reason to expect him to do anything but lift the trophy he barely missed out on three years ago.

“If I go out there tomorrow and I hit it the way I normally hit it, and I putt it well,” Casey said, “then I’m fairly confident.”

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Couples one behind Toledo; Sticker struggles in Wisc.

By Associated PressJune 23, 2018, 9:51 pm

MADISON, Wis. – Esteban Toledo birdied four of the last six holes for a 6-under 66 and the second-round lead Saturday in the American Family Insurance Championship.

Five strokes behind tournament host Steve Stricker after an opening 69 in rain Friday at University Ridge, Toledo had six birdies in a bogey-free round to reach 9-under 135. The 55-year-old Mexican player won the last of his four PGA Tour Champions titles in 2016.

Defending champion Fred Couples (67), David Toms (66), Kent Jones (67) and Billy Mayfair (68) were a stroke back.

''I'm surprised that someone isn't 11 or 12 under, but the greens picked up a lot of pace today,'' Couples said. ''I think maybe the scoring was a little easier yesterday because we got to clean the ball in the fairways, but it's not easy out there.''

Bernhard Langer (69) was 8 under with Madison player Jerry Kelly (69), Scott McCarron (67), Mark Calcavecchia (68), Paul Goydos (68), Joey Sindelar (68), Glen Day (69) and Brad Bryant (72).


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''The conditions haven't been that easy,'' Kelly said. ''The pins are in some spots where you can't spin it and you have to hit them firm out of these kind of soft fairways, otherwise you could chunk it. It's not that easy even though the course is gettable. There's just a few things going on out there to keep the scoring from going too low like it normally does.''

Stricker followed his opening 64 with a 74, ending his Champions under-par streak at 30 rounds - the fourth-longest streak in tour history.

''It just was one of those days where I didn't have a lot of energy,'' Stricker said. ''Nothing - hit very few good shots, really. The couple that I did hit well, I was in bad spots, and a couple bad shots even got worse.''

He had three bogeys and a birdie - on the final hole.

''That was a big birdie in my mind,'' Stricker said. ''It kept me a little bit closer. No one ran away with this thing today and three shots back, a lot of guys in between me and the lead. It was a good putt to make and finally get a birdie. That was my only one today.''

Stricker won in Arizona and Mississippi in consecutive starts in May for his first senior victories. The 12-time PGA Tour winner played the big tour the last two weeks, tying for 18th in Memphis and tying for 20th in the U.S. Open.

John Daly matched Stricker at 6 under with a 70.